If Curry is gone at the 3 spot...who do we take or what do we do?

[journeyscarab]

Say the Lions draft Curry, Rams draft Smith....do we take Monroe/Orakpo/or drop a few spots to get someone else?

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by Mecca

DeMarcus Ware ran that as a 265lb defensive end...it's a little different.

No he didn't, Ware was 250 at the combine.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by HC_Chief

No, in this instance it is in response to a condescending, assinine post on your behalf:



If you're going to condescend people are going to jump your ass. Act like a prick, get treated like one.

Talk like someone who only recently started watching football, and you'll be treated like one.

[HC_Chief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Do you really expect to get anything different when you want to take a OT 3rd when we already have a LT?

I didn't say I wanted anything - I said what I thought would happen.

KC has need at OT. They have a LT in Albert that has played multiple OL positions. They have a VERY high pick with several needs; greatest player value where they are at = Monroe. He is a very good LT prospect.

It makes sense. Especially when you consider KC just traded for a QB. They know they have to keep their QBs healthy, esp after a year where they lost TWO starters.

If they draft Monroe, they move Albert to RT.

The other options: Curry and Raji are logical as well, however they bring up counter-points, just like Monroe.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Talk like someone who only recently started watching football, and you'll be treated like one.

Thank you.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by HC_Chief

I didn't say I wanted anything - I said what I thought would happen.

KC has need at OT. They have a LT in Albert that has played multiple OL positions. They have a VERY high pick with several needs; greatest player value where they are at = Monroe. He is a very good LT prospect.

It makes sense. Especially when you consider KC just traded for a QB. They know they have to keep their QBs healthy, esp after a year where they lost TWO starters.

If they draft Monroe, they move Albert to RT.

The other options: Curry and Raji are logical as well, however they bring up counter-points, just like Monroe.

Do me a favor, go look up how many teams right now have 2 1st round OT's...

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

No he didn't, Ware was 250 at the combine.

You know you're probably right I did throw out a number I admit that but lets also understand Ware was a DE that would have played DE if a 4-3 team picked him and had pass rush moves and major experience rushing the passer.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by HC_Chief

I didn't say I wanted anything - I said what I thought would happen.

KC has need at OT. They have a LT in Albert that has played multiple OL positions. They have a VERY high pick with several needs; greatest player value where they are at = Monroe. He is a very good LT prospect.

It makes sense. Especially when you consider KC just traded for a QB. They know they have to keep their QBs healthy, esp after a year where they lost TWO starters.

If they draft Monroe, they move Albert to RT.

That is just a savage misallocation of resources.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

That is just a savage misallocation of resources.

I want him to get back to me on the thing I asked him to do.

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You know you're probably right I did throw out a number I admit that but lets also understand Ware was a DE that would have played DE if a 4-3 team picked him and had pass rush moves and major experience rushing the passer.

Agree on the position, just don't want Curry's performance at the combine to get downgraded. What he did at that size is amazing and is comparable to what Ware did when he came out. The big difference, obviously, is that Ware was a DE in college and Curry was not.

I've done some research, and I'm not aware of any successful 3-4 OLBs that actually played LB in college instead of DE. So unless Pioli thinks Curry is just a freak, I think we'll probably pass because I can't see him using such a premium pick on an ILB.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Agree on the position, just don't want Curry's performance at the combine to get downgraded. What he did at that size is amazing and is comparable to what Ware did when he came out. The big difference, obviously, is that Ware was a DE in college and Curry was not.

I've done some research, and I'm not aware of any successful 3-4 OLBs that actually played LB in college instead of DE. So unless Pioli thinks Curry is just a freak, I think we'll probably pass because I can't see him using such a premium pick on an ILB.

Ok we're on the same page, I just want people to realize I'm not saying Curry sucks, he'll in all likely hood be a good player, LB is a pretty safe position.

I just don't think he's a good pick for us in this current situation.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

just don't want Curry's performance at the combine to get downgraded.

I'm always scared of the combine warrior that shoots up the draft board.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by sedated

A lot of lower-round picks, but: 3 DL, 2 TE, 1 OL, 1 RB, 1 DB, and 1 LB

Not exactly targeting "skill" positions. No QBs or WRs

I can completely see them going for Raji. They've addressed LB with Vrabel, and have DJohnson already, might move Hali there as well. But the DLine, especially the big NT, is a total question mark if we switch to a 3-4.

Hali is not a LB, inside or outside, in a 34.

Hali has no place in a 34 defense.

Hell, Hali is a marginal DE in a 43.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by sedated

I'm always scared of the combine warrior that shoots up the draft board.

I don't want Curry, but he isn't a combine warrior that is shooting up the board because of his combine performance.

[kcpasco]

Hali will be looking for new employment by this time next season

[melbar]

Originally Posted by Mecca

And that's why its an excessively high pick to use on him.

I understand what you are saying, but sacks arent the only way to affect a game.

I know I keep going to the well on this one, but the Ravens 3-4 is a model by which to judge and Ray was the biggest game changer on that team from that position without rushing the passer. One of the greatest LB in history.

Again, not saying he's Ray, but with the right talent and everyone doing their jobs that position can be extremely effective.

The rub here is also getting players (NT and OLB) who also do their jobs well, but all are needed to be successfull. Either way we need several pieces on this team.