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Old 03-01-2009, 07:43 PM   #1
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Roaf was a left tackle and a 9 time Pro Bowler. He had much more value than a Pro Bowl left guard.

I'd guess a 5th would be the compensation for Waters.
And Roaf was coming off an injury which led to question whether he could play at a high level.
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:45 AM   #2
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Roaf was a left tackle and a 9 time Pro Bowler. He had much more value than a Pro Bowl left guard.

I'd guess a 5th would be the compensation for Waters.
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And Roaf was coming off an injury which led to question whether he could play at a high level.
So... about a three? :-)
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Old 03-01-2009, 07:58 PM   #3
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Roaf was a left tackle and a 9 time Pro Bowler. He had much more value than a Pro Bowl left guard.

I'd guess a 5th would be the compensation for Waters.
If it were anyone other than Pioli, I might agree, Mr. DaneMcCloud. But not in this case.

I can't see Pioli giving up Waters at his age and skill level for a 5.

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Old 03-01-2009, 07:59 PM   #4
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If it were anyone other than Pioli, I might agree, Mr. DaneMcCloud. But not in this case.

I can't see Pioli giving up Waters at his age and skill level for a 5.

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If he doesn't like him or sees him as a distraction, I'd disagree.

And please, I hope I'm dead wrong!
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Old 03-01-2009, 08:03 PM   #5
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If he doesn't like him or sees him as a distraction, I'd disagree.

And please, I hope I'm dead wrong!
Well, there is that.

I have no idea how the Waters deal will eventually work out, but I can promise you this; by the time training camp rolls around, anyone who isn't fully committed to giving 100% to this team will either be gone or benched - regardless of how many pro bowls they've attended or kittens they've rescued from a fire.

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Old 03-01-2009, 07:32 PM   #6
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lee evans would be a good down field threat. i know alot are in favor of draft picks, but can we get a wr as talented as evans in the second?
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Old 03-01-2009, 09:32 PM   #7
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Waters wants out now, get his feeling hurt TH/F when coaches were "Busy" getting a deal and couldn't talk. WTF, I thought Brian was better than to go down this road.
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Old 03-01-2009, 09:41 PM   #8
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Waters wants out now, get his feeling hurt TH/F when coaches were "Busy" getting a deal and couldn't talk. WTF, I thought Brian was better than to go down this road.
More than anything he wasnt, All his whining about Herm and his butthurt....


Pack up whiney boy...
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Old 03-01-2009, 09:44 PM   #9
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I've always been a fan of Waters. I think he's a good player and a great person. But, let's be honest, he hasn't exactly been great since Roaf has been gone. As for being a pro bowler I mean, c'mon, if you're an O-lineman and you make a pro bowl then it becomes all about name recognition as far as getting back there. I'm not saying he's not a good player but I wouldn't cry myself to sleep if we traded him.
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:02 PM   #10
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So if we move Waters, do we grab Monroe and slide Albert to LG?

I'd be curious to know if Brian still wants to be traded today. I mean, if you were Pioli or Haley and had to decide whether or not to say: "Hey Brian, sorry about the other day, we had a big deal going down and didn't mean any disrespect. What's on your mind?"

Would that be "giving in" or just enough to calm his cranky ass down?
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Old 03-02-2009, 05:51 AM   #11
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So if we move Waters, do we grab Monroe and slide Albert to LG?
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I really don't get it, it seems like people not just Chiefs fans automatically think this team is taking Curry or an OT and that's that.
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:40 PM   #13
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I really don't get it, it seems like people not just Chiefs fans automatically think this team is taking Curry or an OT and that's that.
Frankly if there's a trade down opportunity I can almost guarantee that Pioli will go that route.
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I really don't get it, it seems like people not just Chiefs fans automatically think this team is taking Curry or an OT and that's that.
If I had to bet, I'd say those are two types of moves Pioli WOULDN'T make.
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None of the players the Chiefs would attempt to get rid of are remotely worth a 2, you might be able to bait some team into a 3 but with Buffalo picking at the front end of the rounds I seriously doubt you'd get more than a 4.

I think it's time for Waters to go, guards are easily replaceable, he's a mouthpiece from the past regime and obviously is not the kind of player this organization wants now going and whining to Whitlock and all.
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