Chiefs A dash of Curry solidifies Chiefs defense. - Page 10

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 08:22 AM

Obviously, the Chiefs are going to the 3-4.

Lets look at the Defensive line first. The Chiefs have a couple of guys in Boone and McBride that are DE/DT hybrids. They will be able to play DE in the 3-4. McBride has focused on staying slim while in the NFL becuse he was playing end in the 4-3. He will be allowed to Bulk up. Boone is a heck of a fit in the 3-4 as well.

Dorsey often tied up two blockers last year. He will also be allowed to go inside and outside. Perhaps not the prototypical NT... but a guy who has flexibility and will be better at NT than some in here realize. In college, he was asked to merely hold the line of scrimage. He wasn't asked to get upfield. In the 3-4, it will be very similar whether he plays end or NT.

Tank will play the nose exclusively, which should be a good fit on run downs. We also still have Ron Edwards, who is a big body that can rotate in at NT.

Now, linebacker, the OLB's are Hali and Vrabel. Hali should get double digit sacks this year with the switch to the 3-4. He won't be on the line every down which should keep the wear and tear on his body down a bit. It will allow him to be in space, which he plays well in.

I know that some don't think he is fast enough. I think those guys are foolish, but then again, they think I am foolish for thinking he will be a great fit. The great thing is that we will get to see this year who is right.

DJ will move inside. This will help DJ's game. The defensive line for the 3-4 isn't trying to get upfield. They are merely trying to hold the line of scrimage. This will allow DJ to play sideline to sideline and make more plays.

Now, the secondary was pretty good last year. Bernard Pollard will be allowed to play inside the box more and Page will be more of a traditional safety. Morgan is the x factor here because he has more ranged than Pollard and is a better tackler than Page.

The Chiefs starting corners are pretty solid with Carr and Flowers. With the additional pass rush that the Chiefs should be getting, I expect that these guys will do just fine.

Now, comes the spice of the defense.... Curry. Curry is an absolute beast that will roam the middle of the field and make tackle after tackle. Curry is good in coverage, and will be able to rush the passer from the middle of the field on blitz's. This will allow him to be more effective rushing the passer. Inside blitzes are effective because of the speed of the blitzer and a lane created by the outside rush. Curry is fast enough, that he will be able to disquise the blitzes very well and won't have to be close to the line of scrimage to be effective. Curry is the best fit for this team at #3, and will make the biggest impact of any player the Chiefs can draft IMO.

I know I will get flamed for this. I know that some think that McBride, Hali and Dorsey are busts. I think that they are players in the Patriots mold. Guys who love the game, who are smart and who never give up.

I hope that Curry somehow falls to the Chiefs, because if he does, the Chiefs will have a defense that will be at least top half of the league next year, if not top 10.

He is a dynamic leader on defense, and I think the next Ray Lewis. As such, I think he is worth the #3 pick.

Now, flame away. After having the Chiefs effectively remove the option of drafting the dirty Sanchez.... nothing can bring me down....

RedThat · 03-02-2009, 11:09 AM

But this is what happens when you change regimes.

When you bring in a new GM and new coaching staff things are going to change. It's gonna be a totally different attitude and philosophy. Schemes are gonna change too. It's just the nature how things work in the NFL. Question is, Can you accept the change? I know I can. Either way, with our previous regime, we sucked completely at running a zone defense anyway.

If you suck at that, might as well change it up? It moakes no difference to me. What do we got to lose?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-02-2009, 11:10 AM

And I'll say it from now until April 25th:

Do not for one minute think you know the mind of Pioli; you don't.

**DeezNutz** · 03-02-2009, 11:12 AM

Potentially burning Flowers and Dorsey would be just moronic. We don't know about the latter, but Flowers sure showed a lot of flashes last season. A lot.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

If Stafford is available I think it is possible. I don't know many GM"s that will give up what it takes to move to the top 3 for a one year starter. This risk is extremely high to start with, let alone giving up multiple first day picks.

If Stafford is available after trading for Cassell that's a reason to go out to arrowhead and set peoples cars on fire.

Gdaddy · 03-02-2009, 11:17 AM

I think Curry is a Stud. He will be a 100 plus tackle guy, but not alot of pash rush. I compare him to Derrick Brooks. He can cover well, too. I definitely think we need someone better for NT, I dont think Tank, Turk or Dorsey can do it. Boone is big enough, but if we want to be a top ten defense we need someone more proven in there. Rogers wants out of Cleveland, wouldnt he be a great fit in KC?

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Uh, Flowers LIVES to bring pressure. Just because ****her never called a Corner Blitz, does NOT mean Flowers can't bring one. He can.

I'm not talking about Corner blitzes.

I'm talking about being able to man up and play bump and run. He did it some in college, but he also got burned alot when he did. They never used him that way here, so there's some question there.

Don't get me wrong, I love the kid. I was just using him as another example why moving to a straight 3-4 with this many young players isn't what I would do.

**DeezNutz** · 03-02-2009, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

If Stafford is available after trading for Cassell that's a reason to go out to arrowhead and set peoples cars on fire.

The Cassel move is probably going to be the defining moment in Pioli's time in KC.

I'm literally going to vomit on draft day if we would have had our pick of QB's.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

And I'll say it from now until April 25th:

Do not for one minute think you know the mind of Pioli; you don't.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gdaddy

I think Curry is a Stud. He will be a 100 plus tackle guy, but not alot of pash rush. I compare him to Derrick Brooks. He can cover well, too. I definitely think we need someone better for NT, I dont think Tank, Turk or Dorsey can do it. Boone is big enough, but if we want to be a top ten defense we need someone more proven in there. Rogers wants out of Cleveland, wouldnt he be a great fit in KC?

Derrick Brooks was an OLB in a 4-3.

MOhillbilly · 03-02-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm not talking about Corner blitzes.

I'm talking about being able to man up and play bump and run. He did it some in college, but he also got burned alot when he did. They never used him that way here, so there's some question there.

Don't get me wrong, I love the kid. I was just using him as another example why moving to a straight 3-4 with this many young players isn't what I would do.

just run the corners in a soft cover and let the SS play the line and the FS play cover 1.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-02-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Potentially burning Flowers and Dorsey would be just moronic. We don't know about the latter, but Flowers sure showed a lot of flashes last season. A lot.

Flowers ain't goin' ANYWHERE.

Bank It!

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The Cassel move is probably going to be the defining moment in Pioli's time in KC.

I'm literally going to vomit on draft day if we would have had our pick of QB's.

If that happens this shit better workout or I'm gonna blow my lid.

**DeezNutz** · 03-02-2009, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

If that happens this shit better workout or I'm gonna blow my lid.

And by workout, I mean, and I'm sure you do too, that Cassel better be more than Green v.2.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-02-2009, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

If that happens this shit better workout or I'm gonna blow my lid.

Ahem...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

And I'll say it from now until April 25th:

Do not for one minute think you know the mind of Pioli; you don't.

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RustShack · 03-02-2009, 11:25 AM

I really don't even care anymore. This is a shitty year to draft #3. I wanted Stafford and would settle for Sanchez but it doesn't matter now because we traded for Cassel who hopefully isn't a one year wonder(odds are he is though). We drafted a LT last year and don't need another, Crabtree isn't a top WR most years, and LB'ers just aren't worth a top three pick. The best possible thing we can do is trade down but I doubt that happens. Personally I feel Haley drafts Crabtree though, if not he gets another LT and moved Albert to OG to help keep Cassel up-right. Curry I think would be the last option, I feel sorry for the Chiefs if Pioli is such a bad drafter he can't find LB's outside of the top 3.

03-02-2009, 08:22 AM
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	A dash of Curry solidifies Chiefs defense. Obviously, the Chiefs are going to the 3-4. Lets look at the Defensive line first. The Chiefs have a couple of guys in Boone and McBride that are DE/DT hybrids. They will be able to play DE in the 3-4. McBride has focused on staying slim while in the NFL becuse he was playing end in the 4-3. He will be allowed to Bulk up. Boone is a heck of a fit in the 3-4 as well. Dorsey often tied up two blockers last year. He will also be allowed to go inside and outside. Perhaps not the prototypical NT... but a guy who has flexibility and will be better at NT than some in here realize. In college, he was asked to merely hold the line of scrimage. He wasn't asked to get upfield. In the 3-4, it will be very similar whether he plays end or NT. Tank will play the nose exclusively, which should be a good fit on run downs. We also still have Ron Edwards, who is a big body that can rotate in at NT. Now, linebacker, the OLB's are Hali and Vrabel. Hali should get double digit sacks this year with the switch to the 3-4. He won't be on the line every down which should keep the wear and tear on his body down a bit. It will allow him to be in space, which he plays well in. I know that some don't think he is fast enough. I think those guys are foolish, but then again, they think I am foolish for thinking he will be a great fit. The great thing is that we will get to see this year who is right. DJ will move inside. This will help DJ's game. The defensive line for the 3-4 isn't trying to get upfield. They are merely trying to hold the line of scrimage. This will allow DJ to play sideline to sideline and make more plays. Now, the secondary was pretty good last year. Bernard Pollard will be allowed to play inside the box more and Page will be more of a traditional safety. Morgan is the x factor here because he has more ranged than Pollard and is a better tackler than Page. The Chiefs starting corners are pretty solid with Carr and Flowers. With the additional pass rush that the Chiefs should be getting, I expect that these guys will do just fine. Now, comes the spice of the defense.... Curry. Curry is an absolute beast that will roam the middle of the field and make tackle after tackle. Curry is good in coverage, and will be able to rush the passer from the middle of the field on blitz's. This will allow him to be more effective rushing the passer. Inside blitzes are effective because of the speed of the blitzer and a lane created by the outside rush. Curry is fast enough, that he will be able to disquise the blitzes very well and won't have to be close to the line of scrimage to be effective. Curry is the best fit for this team at #3, and will make the biggest impact of any player the Chiefs can draft IMO. I know I will get flamed for this. I know that some think that McBride, Hali and Dorsey are busts. I think that they are players in the Patriots mold. Guys who love the game, who are smart and who never give up. I hope that Curry somehow falls to the Chiefs, because if he does, the Chiefs will have a defense that will be at least top half of the league next year, if not top 10. He is a dynamic leader on defense, and I think the next Ray Lewis. As such, I think he is worth the #3 pick. Now, flame away. After having the Chiefs effectively remove the option of drafting the dirty Sanchez.... nothing can bring me down....
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RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	But this is what happens when you change regimes. When you bring in a new GM and new coaching staff things are going to change. It's gonna be a totally different attitude and philosophy. Schemes are gonna change too. It's just the nature how things work in the NFL. Question is, Can you accept the change? I know I can. Either way, with our previous regime, we sucked completely at running a zone defense anyway. If you suck at that, might as well change it up? It moakes no difference to me. What do we got to lose?
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Gdaddy Starter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fair Haven, NJ Casino cash: $10004900	I think Curry is a Stud. He will be a 100 plus tackle guy, but not alot of pash rush. I compare him to Derrick Brooks. He can cover well, too. I definitely think we need someone better for NT, I dont think Tank, Turk or Dorsey can do it. Boone is big enough, but if we want to be a top ten defense we need someone more proven in there. Rogers wants out of Cleveland, wouldnt he be a great fit in KC?
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