Conspiracy buffs?

[tooge]

Ok, who here is at least somewhat of a conspiracy buff? Which ones do you believe strongly in and which do you think are bs? Any of your own?

[Simply Red]

there used to be devil-worshipers on selsa road, in the eighties.

[Cannibal]

Originally Posted by RJ

KILLER CLOWN please report to the lounge.

[Simply Red]

teh sun is teh GOD!!

[rockymtnchief]

Originally Posted by Bowser

The WTC 7 thing is a mystery. It went down hours after the towers did, and the owner took out a billion dollar insurance policy on that building in the days (weeks) preceeding 9/11.

As for the 9/11 conspiracy as a whole, good arguments can indeed be made for it, but as has been pointed up repeatedly, the sheer magnitude of an operation like that would be absolutely impossible to keep quiet.

This.

Janitors, maintenance workers, etc... would've noticed, and later, voiced any kind of charges or unusual work done pre-911.

As far as insurance goes, you can bet that any saavy owner of any building of this magnitude reviews his insurance every year. It could just be coincidence that it was reviewed the week before and upped from 900 million to a billion. We don't know what it was insured for beforehand, but I'll bet it was close to a billion already.

As far as being built to withstand an aerial strike, I had read that it was built to withstand an AIRCRAFT strike similar to the one that hit the Empire State Building. Nowhere have I seen that it was built to withstand a large passenger jet strike. If someone has seen different, I stand corrected.

Finally, there are airline recordings and cell calls of the terrorists attack on board the planes while in flight. That should be enough to tell anyone we were attacked by terrorists.

[rockymtnchief]

Originally Posted by gta0012

The only thing close to a conspiracy that I can believe is that we had prior knowledge of the plans for this attack and did nothing.

I remember vividly watching CNN or some news network a month or so before 9/11 and Interpol raised the flag on a potential terrorist attack happening soon.

I find it hard to believe we planned the whole thing. But I could see us turning our back knowing something was coming. Helped us get into wars that we wanted to begin with.

I saw something similar. Only it implied that the government knew something was coming, but didn't know where exactly. I believe they were already trying to track down a couple of the hijackers, but they were too late.

No doubt though, they drug their feet. I don't think they realized it would be this huge.

[gta0012]

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief

I saw something similar. Only it implied that the government knew something was coming, but didn't know where exactly. I believe they were already trying to track down a couple of the hijackers, but they were too late.

No doubt though, they drug their feet. I don't think they realized it would be this huge.

Agreed. They were probably thinking hijacking of a plane 100 people that may die. I could see the gov't writing that off as an acceptable loss that would help us go to war.

They probably looked around after 9/11 like ohh ****

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief

As far as being built to withstand an aerial strike, I had read that it was built to withstand an AIRCRAFT strike similar to the one that hit the Empire State Building. Nowhere have I seen that it was built to withstand a large passenger jet strike. If someone has seen different, I stand corrected.

Yes, it was built to withstand an aircraft strike, what it WASN'T built to withstand was the intense heat of the jet fuel burning. The heat weakened the trusses and once one floor collapsed, gravity took over and it was a chain reaction. And the reason the both the collapses were similar was because both buildings were designed the same way and were exposed to the same conditions leading to the same failures.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by loochy

Dulce Base - there is a supposed massive joint human/alien base far underground the Archuleta Mesa in Dulce, NM. Humans are taken there and prepared for consumption by the aliens. There is a long paper written about this by an alleged former security guard. It's pretty entertaining and worth a read - google "Dulce Book" to find it.

The Dulce Base is one of the most debated, whacked out, and interesting topics in all of Ufology.

The paper you're referring to is called the "Dulce Papers"...its an extremely interesting read no matter how out there the ideas presented are.

Dulce is just one of many rumored DUMBs...including the one supposedly under DIA I posted about.

I remember the Dulce episode of UFO Hunters, crazy stuff.
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[Jenson71]

Originally Posted by loochy

It seems pretty easy (if not pointless) to get someone out of the solar system. Just pack up a pod with a ton of food and other sustenance and send the dude packing. If it takes years upon years, so what? I bet we could sustain someone that long just to prove you wrong.

How can you sustain some person for 150,000 years? How can you sustain the pod for 150,000 years?

[Jenson71]

Originally Posted by COchief

What would someone have said if you told them about the Iphone and its capabilities in 1950? I can't beleive how every human generation feels it knows everything there is to know, when history continues to show that the previous generations didn't know shit. We are no different, the people born 100 years from now will definitely consider everyone alive right now a moron.

Who thinks people born 100 years ago are morons? You're the jackass with no sense of history. History: morons building upon morons. Every generation is moronic because the next generation is a little less moronic.

There were phones in 1950. If you had said to someone "Uh, in the future, those will be wireless and smaller and have pictures on it" they would have had no problem. One, there was already wireless technology. Two, they had small instruments. Three, they had pictures.

I don't feel like there is nothing more to know. I just know that there's no way we're getting to another solar system to meet aliens. And no one is doing that with us.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Jenson71

Who thinks people born 100 years ago are morons? You're the jackass with no sense of history. History: morons building upon morons. Every generation is moronic because the next generation is a little less moronic.

There were phones in 1950. If you had said to someone "Uh, in the future, those will be wireless and smaller and have pictures on it" they would have had no problem. One, there was already wireless technology. Two, they had small instruments. Three, they had pictures.

I don't feel like there is nothing more to know. I just know that there's no way we're getting to another solar system to meet aliens. And no one is doing that with us.

Never say never. There's no telling what type of ne technologies will present themselves hundreds of years from now, or what new laws of physics will be written.

[Pioli Zombie]

Aliens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[CH13FS]

Obviously no one here watches star trek, it's called WARP 9 PEOPLE

[Pioli Zombie]

I think Josh Peck is the Anti-Christ.
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