Mike Mayock comments on top 3 QBs. - Page 10

Chiefnj2 · 01-21-2010, 12:38 PM

Out of the 3 top qb's comming into the draft who can you see as the biggest RISK pick Bradford,Mccoy,Clausen?

Mike Mayock, NFL Network
Hey Fred, interesting question. I like Jimmy Clausen, but I see him as the biggest risk. Even though he comes out of a pro-style offense. Bradford is very, very solid. And I think McCoy is a little bit mroe of a developmental play, but easily the best athlete of the three. Clausen, for me, needs to be more consistent in the pocket and needs to make more consistent throws.

So, Mayock thinks Clausen is a bigger risk/bust potential than Bradford and McCoy.

BigCatDaddy · 01-31-2011, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What gives you that idea?

Asamoah has not taken a single snap at any position other than guard for five straight seasons.

I think it was talked about when he was drafted last year by the talking heads and also mentioned in his scouting report. I just don't see him sitting another year. The only way he plays G next year is if Waters is traded.

aturnis · 01-31-2011, 11:13 PM

Kind of agree with you BigCat. If the Chiefs don't draft a Center, I think they could consider Asamoah at that spot. I'm pretty sure in college he did practice at center from what I remember.

From NFLDraftScout.com
Post-Draft Outlook: A closer look at the Chiefs' picks: Round 3/68 -- Jon Asamoah, C/G, 6-4, 305, Illinois, A talented interior blocker who can also play center, Asamoah has the nasty attitude the Chiefs hope to foster with the blockers under Weis and O-Line coach Bill Muir. - by The Sports Xchange

Actually his biggest knock as a guard if I remember right, was his size/strength. We'll see.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-31-2011, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I think it was talked about when he was drafted last year by the talking heads and also mentioned in his scouting report. I just don't see him sitting another year. The only way he plays G next year is if Waters is traded.

It's nonsense. There were NO "talking head" mentioning that he could play center. There were a couple of "scouting reports" by lame internet scouts that claimed he "could" play center but it was pure and utter speculation.

The fact is that the guy was a four year starter in college at the right guard position and he has far more upside than Waters or Lilja (who gets pushed around far too often for my taste).

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-31-2011, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Actually his biggest knock as a guard if I remember right, was his size/strength. We'll see.

That's ****ing bullshit.

Did you see any evidence this past season when he started in place of Lilja or played when Waters was hurt that he had a "strength" issue?

aturnis · 01-31-2011, 11:59 PM

Didn't say it was my knock did I? Kind of helps that we run a zone blocking scheme though eh?

aturnis · 02-01-2011, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's nonsense. There were NO "talking head" mentioning that he could play center. There were a couple of "scouting reports" by lame internet scouts that claimed he "could" play center but it was pure and utter speculation.

The fact is that the guy was a four year starter in college at the right guard position and he has far more upside than Waters or Lilja (who gets pushed around far too often for my taste).

He has practiced there, which is a good start. He's also a smart guy, so he could play center. Also, he started three years.

From KcChiefs.com

College: Versatile offensive lineman joined Kansas City as the club’s first of two third-round selections (68th overall) in the 2010 NFL Draft ... Can play either guard position and also practiced at center during his collegiate career ... Cemented his position along the offensive line at Illinois, starting three straight years at right guard ... Played in 42 games, starting 37 consecutive games during his final three seasons ... Earned second-team All-Big Ten honors as a senior ... Was selected to the National Football Foundation’s 16-man Scholar-Athlete team.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-01-2011, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Didn't say it was my knock did I? Kind of helps that we run a zone blocking scheme though eh?

No, I was speaking in general.

I think it's nonsense that some dopey website can state something that has no bearing in reality, yet people quote that website ad nauseam without using their noggin.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-01-2011, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

He has practiced there, which is a good start. He's also a smart guy, so he could play center. Also, he started three years.

He started 37 games. He started from game five of his freshman year.

Furthermore, practice in college is far different than practice in the NFL.

In short, I'll believe it when I see it and I seriously doubt I'll ever see it. He's far too important as a guard than as a center.

**Saul Good** · 02-01-2011, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He started 37 games. He started from game five of his freshman year.

Furthermore, practice in college is far different than practice in the NFL.

In short, I'll believe it when I see it and I seriously doubt I'll ever see it. He's far too important as a guard than as a center.

The organization thought enough of it to mention it on their profile of him on the web site.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-01-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

The organization thought enough of it to mention it on their profile of him on the web site.

On draft day.

Propaganda, pure and simple.

BigCatDaddy · 02-01-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

On draft day.

Propaganda, pure and simple.

Either way I say they try to squeeze Waters, Lilja and Asamoah into the interior 3 this year one way or another.

What do you THINK will happen? Not what do you want to see happen.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-01-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

The organization thought enough of it to mention it on their profile of him on the web site.

Who gives a shit? Eric Berry was a HS QB, it doesn't mean he's fit to play that position in the NFL.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-01-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Either way I say they try to squeeze Waters, Lilja and Asamoah into the interior 3 this year one way or another.

What do you THINK will happen? Not what do you want to see happen.

Squeeze? So, you're suggesting that they play Lilja and Asamoah out of position, just because they can?

****, I hope not.

ChiefsCountry · 02-01-2011, 02:02 PM

I see Laz's bullshit idea of them switching all the lineman around is creeping through the fanbase.

**Saul Good** · 02-01-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Who gives a shit? Eric Berry was a HS QB, it doesn't mean he's fit to play that position in the NFL.

Do the Chiefs list that under his profile on their web site?

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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	Mike Mayock comments on top 3 QBs. Out of the 3 top qb's comming into the draft who can you see as the biggest RISK pick Bradford,Mccoy,Clausen? Mike Mayock, NFL Network Hey Fred, interesting question. I like Jimmy Clausen, but I see him as the biggest risk. Even though he comes out of a pro-style offense. Bradford is very, very solid. And I think McCoy is a little bit mroe of a developmental play, but easily the best athlete of the three. Clausen, for me, needs to be more consistent in the pocket and needs to make more consistent throws. So, Mayock thinks Clausen is a bigger risk/bust potential than Bradford and McCoy.
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aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	Kind of agree with you BigCat. If the Chiefs don't draft a Center, I think they could consider Asamoah at that spot. I'm pretty sure in college he did practice at center from what I remember. From NFLDraftScout.com Post-Draft Outlook: A closer look at the Chiefs' picks: Round 3/68 -- Jon Asamoah, C/G, 6-4, 305, Illinois, A talented interior blocker who can also play center, Asamoah has the nasty attitude the Chiefs hope to foster with the blockers under Weis and O-Line coach Bill Muir. - by The Sports Xchange Actually his biggest knock as a guard if I remember right, was his size/strength. We'll see.
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aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	Didn't say it was my knock did I? Kind of helps that we run a zone blocking scheme though eh?
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