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Old 09-18-2010, 10:01 PM   #1
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I don't know why we don't implement more traditional sets with our offense. We have decent size on the line and a number of large WRs and TEs who can beat single coverage. I actually think the spread makes this a worse offense.
Couldn't agree more. Watched the Nebraska game with my BIL today, and we had this very same conversation about our respective programs.

The system dependence and tunnel vision demonstrated by too many coaching staffs...troubling this crap is.
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:01 AM   #2
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Well, I only listened to the game on the radio, but Gabbert threw two back breaking picks when we needed him the most, he was also very inaccurate save for a stretch in the second quarter.

Again, it doesn't help that we have no running game and that all our passes are 0-5 yards downfield. Gabbert plays better the more we stretch the field.

Yost and Pinkel simply have to go.

I don't know why we don't implement more traditional sets with our offense. We have decent size on the line and a number of large WRs and TEs who can beat single coverage. I actually think the spread makes this a worse offense.
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:55 PM   #3
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Gabbert was ****ing horrendous today too, but it doesn't help when the OC isn't calling downfield passing plays.

Either way, all of these QBs will have just enough warts so that the anti-QB crowd can throw a shit fit at the thought of drafting any of them.
I don't think so. There is a clear line of deficiency that has been drawn in the sand. It's common, accepted knowledge among a large base that we could be competitive THIS YEAR with an improvement at the position that doesn't require(though we should always seek)an "Elway/Young" at the position.

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Old 09-18-2010, 10:01 PM   #4
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I don't think so. There is a clear line of deficiency that has been drawn in the sand. It's common, accepted knowledge among a large base that we could be competitive THIS YEAR with an improvement at the position that doesn't require(though we should always seek)an "Elway/Young" at the position.

It's coming. Be patient.
When presented with a foundational change vs. an instant impact player, most fans will always take the latter.

If we are offered a pass rusher instead of a QB, I'll bet we take the pass rusher. Furthermore, if we draft in the middle of the round, I wouldn't be surprised to see a surge of "draft the NT or draft the C" crowd.
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:19 PM   #5
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When presented with a foundational change vs. an instant impact player, most fans will always take the latter.

If we are offered a pass rusher instead of a QB, I'll bet we take the pass rusher. Furthermore, if we draft in the middle of the round, I wouldn't be surprised to see a surge of "draft the NT or draft the C" crowd.
Yeah, that shit will be the same as always amongst the asses but if The Guy is Right; I wouldn't be surprised in the least by a move-up on the part of the actual decision-makers in this thing.

And in this case, wouldn't the two types of players be one in the same?
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:41 PM   #6
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When presented with a foundational change vs. an instant impact player, most fans will always take the latter.

If we are offered a pass rusher instead of a QB, I'll bet we take the pass rusher. Furthermore, if we draft in the middle of the round, I wouldn't be surprised to see a surge of "draft the NT or draft the C" crowd.
And I don't think a pass rusher would necessarily be a bad decision to make, but it would depend on what was done at the quarterback position prior to that. This is a tough discussion to have right now, without knowing what Cassel is going to do the rest of the season, what they decide to do with him after it's over, who they choose to replace him with if he is gone, and whether it's someone they find in March or at the end of April. Hell, we don't even know where they're picking at this point. Maybe it's five, maybe it's 15.
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:56 PM   #7
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Gabbert was ****ing horrendous today too, but it doesn't help when the OC isn't calling downfield passing plays.

Either way, all of these QBs will have just enough warts so that the anti-QB crowd can throw a shit fit at the thought of drafting any of them.
Locker was playing against one of the best defensive backfields in the country today. I didn't get to see Missouri today. What was up with Gabbert?
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:59 PM   #8
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Locker was playing against one of the best defensive backfields in the country today. I didn't get to see Missouri today. What was up with Gabbert?
And this had very little impact on his day today. He was flat out ****ing awful. Missed wide open receivers and demonstrated precious little presence in the pocket.

In other words, as a Chiefs fan, I felt very comfortable with what I was watching.
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Old 09-19-2010, 10:48 AM   #9
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Gabbert was ****ing horrendous today too, but it doesn't help when the OC isn't calling downfield passing plays.

Either way, all of these QBs will have just enough warts so that the anti-QB crowd can throw a shit fit at the thought of drafting any of them.
Yost called a lot of downfield passing plays in the first half, Gabbert just couldn't hit them.

Gabbert is exclusively responsible for his struggles yesterday. Not Pinkel, not Yost, not even Jackson. He played like shit and missed any deep throws he tried in the first half, so Yost dialed down the playcalling in the 2nd.

I liked the playcalling a lot in the first half, but Gabbert showed he couldn't shoulder the load on this particular day.
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FWIW, SDSU runs a 3-3-5, which means that our offense, which is predictable and stupid, to quote the great Clubber Lang, is tailor made for them.

Gabbert sounded like he was high with a lot of throws, but again, our inability to run the ball against 5 and 6 in the box is what killed us. 3 YPC against a front like that is simply unacceptable.

However, TJ Moe is Jordan Shipley, so we do have that going for us.
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:10 PM   #11
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So, I was never a fan of drafting Locker all the way through his sophomore season. After last year, watching his accuracy increase I thought he had all the tools to be an NFL quarterback and pimped him endlessly.

People in Seattle talk about the playcalling, they talk about the poor offensive line play, and it all feels so familiar as a Chiefs fan. What I saw was a guy that doesn't have the poise to stand in the pocket and deliver an accurate pass. He gets nervous back there, and once that happens, the ball gets overthrown. That's his M.O.

Regardless of whether Nebraska has one of the best defenses in the Nation or not, the NFL has a lot more to offer than the blackshirts do. This guy is flat out not ready and will be a project at best. I'm a ****ing idiot homer. What else is new?
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So, I was never a fan of drafting Locker all the way through his sophomore season. After last year, watching his accuracy increase I thought he had all the tools to be an NFL quarterback and pimped him endlessly.

People in Seattle talk about the playcalling, they talk about the poor offensive line play, and it all feels so familiar as a Chiefs fan. What I saw was a guy that doesn't have the poise to stand in the pocket and deliver an accurate pass. He gets nervous back there, and once that happens, the ball gets overthrown. That's his M.O.

Regardless of whether Nebraska has one of the best defenses in the Nation or not, the NFL has a lot more to offer than the blackshirts do. This guy is flat out not ready and will be a project at best. I'm a ****ing idiot homer. What else is new?
I wasn't just trolling when I made this thread I really do see alot of Cassel in Locker. Don't worry Flop Sark has Washington on the right track and you guys are some of the best fans in college football.
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I wasn't just trolling when I made this thread I really do see alot of Cassel in Locker. Don't worry Flop Sark has Washington on the right track and you guys are some of the best fans in college football.
I have no emotional investments in ANY of these college QB's. I want the Right Mother****er for my Chiefs. Period.

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People in Seattle talk about the playcalling, they talk about the poor offensive line play, and it all feels so familiar as a Chiefs fan. What I saw was a guy that doesn't have the poise to stand in the pocket and deliver an accurate pass. He gets nervous back there, and once that happens, the ball gets overthrown. That's his M.O.

Regardless of whether Nebraska has one of the best defenses in the Nation or not, the NFL has a lot more to offer than the blackshirts do. This guy is flat out not ready and will be a project at best. I'm a ****ing idiot homer. What else is new?
I know someone who has been saying this for awhile.

I've been watching Husky fans make excuses for this guy for four years now and he still has accomplished nothing. He still sprays the ball all over and he would still rather take off with the ball rather than go through his progressions. He is Tyler Thigpen with better publicity.

Unfortunately, it looks like Washington is going to be fighting my Beavers and USC for mid pack in the PAC-10. Stanford, AZ and Oregon look like the class this year.
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