Patrick Mahomes: Game Manager

[DJ's left nut]

So i re-watched the 2nd half last night just for grins.

And during the game I was just aggravated that we simply wouldn't push the ball. But on re-watch and after listening to the post-game, it's clear that this was Mahomes just going full Alex Smith out there.

He wasn't concerned anymore about scoring points. He (and Andy) were wholly content bleeding clock and leaning on their lead. He knew that if he just didn't make a mistake, the Ravens weren't going to come back and win it. So he took ZERO risks.

Contrast that with how he played on the first two drives. And hell, the throw he made on 3rd down when they had to have it. He HAD big plays. He HAD yards and probably points on the board. But he dialed that risk/reward calculus waaaaaaay down because he wanted to make sure there were zero mistakes.

And I think part of it was because he knew that if he needed to pick things back up, he could. He would. He was in complete command of the game and game script.

It was part of a continued evolution from Mahomes. If he needs to breath fire, he will. But when he doesn't need to, he knows how to just keep the game under control. He can be Rodgers OR he can be Brady.

He's a scary scary dude even when he isn't.

[Mecca]

Yea he did it on purpose to reset the down and distance, that made sense..

The way he did it though makes him a complete bitch.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea he did it on purpose to reset the down and distance, that made sense..

The way he did it though makes him a complete bitch.

A bitch and an idiot. He could have just jumped and tapped him to do the same shit. It would have made it less obvious.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by TripleThreat

Wtf are you on lol. I'm not saying it WASN'T a peanlty, nor were my other points. This is in regards to the OP saying Mahomes and Reid taking their foot off the gas because of how "in control" we were.

I don't agree with that sentiment, I just think the Ravens were in a lot less control than we were. Our defense won that game for us, not Mahomes and Reid's game plan in response to the Ravens being unprepared. We have 6 first downs in the 2nd half, that isn't "full control".

this post just prove you know nothing about football...

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

A bitch and an idiot. He could have just jumped and tapped him to do the same shit. It would have made it less obvious.

I maintain he knew they were going to lose so he wanted to cheap shot somebody.

He was trying to twist dudes ankles in piles all day, dude is a piece of shit.

[CaptainMorgan]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lol, when did I say either of those flags were weak?



Anyway, at least of the holding calls on Taylor was a weak call. The second one, iirc, wasn't holding.

The unnecessary roughness on Roquon (when he jumped off-sides and ran into Trey) was kind of weak.

The flag against BAL after the altercation between Travis and Queen or whoever was pretty weak for a playoff game.

And KC committed DPI at least twice that wasn't called.

And there were probably a couple more, but I haven't rewatched the game and I missed part of the first quarter.

But again, the refs this season have been terrible, so it's not like any of this was a surprise.

My summary of the penalties/non-calls:

1. Lamar 4th down run in the 1st quarter should have been a hold. Blatant hold on Wharton that opened the hole.
2. Both flags on Trey Smith were weak, shouldn't have been called. Especially the second one having just called one.
3. Head butt on Van Noy. Refs had already let a ton of back and forth go, and then a third party comes in and does that. It's well after the play, its blatant, its right in front of the refs, and its a third party coming in to potentially escalate the skirmish. That's getting called every time.
4. Taunting penalty on Flowers. Again, blatant. Pushed a dude down, spun the ball by his head and flexes over him. So blatant its forcing the ref's hand.
5. Connor - should have been DPI on Likely
6. Non PI in the end zone. Sorry, you throw a trash pass into triple coverage and all three DBs are clamouring for the ball, that ain't getting called ever. And its a pretty beta look from the Baltimore fans crying that the refs didn't bail them out and throw a flag in that situation.
7. Unnecessary roughness on Roquan. Again, everyone knows he's trying to take an encroachment penalty. No one is oblivious to that. Just encroach and be done with it. Instead the prick loads up and explodes into the head and face of a defenceless Trey Smith. Absolute cheap shot, hack move by yet another Ravens guy not in control of their emotions. That was a trash play that deserved getting flagged.

At the end of the day, the Ravens sent over their kicker to try and play mind games pregame with Mahomes. Think about that for a second. If that's not an all-time beta cuck move I'm not sure what is.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lol, when did I say either of those flags were weak?



Anyway, at least of the holding calls on Taylor was a weak call. The second one, iirc, wasn't holding.

The unnecessary roughness on Roquon (when he jumped off-sides and ran into Trey) was kind of weak.

The flag against BAL after the altercation between Travis and Queen or whoever was pretty weak for a playoff game.

And KC committed DPI at least twice that wasn't called.

And there were probably a couple more, but I haven't rewatched the game and I missed part of the first quarter.

But again, the refs this season have been terrible, so it's not like any of this was a surprise.

Dude - that was textbook unnecessary roughness.

Because everyone knew he was jumping on purpose - a 1st down effectively ends the game and 5 yards for an offsides gives them what they wanted. All he had to do was jump early and pat Smith on the shoulders. Instead he ran through the guy.

That was as obvious as an unnecessary roughness penalty gets. Dude thought "hey, I'm gonna make them earn this free 5 yards and no harm done because we wanted them at 1st and 10 anyway..."

It was a dirty bullshit move. There was nothing at all weak about that call in the context of the play. If that's a legit penalty where he just jumped early - maybe not. But that was clearly intentional and that's what that penalty exists to prevent.

[kpic]

While this thread has been great discussion and I've enjoyed reading it all...

SiriusXM NFl channel interviewed Mahomes after the game and he basically said almost the exact thing DJ is alluding to, nothing about missing opportunities, not executing etc. so we can take it from the man himself that appears to be what they were in fact doing there.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by CaptainMorgan

My summary of the penalties/non-calls:

1. Lamar 4th down run in the 4th quarter should have been a hold. Blatant hold on Wharton that opened the hole.
2. Both flags on Trey Smith were weak, shouldn't have been called. Especially the second one having just called one.
3. Head butt on Van Noy. Refs had already let a ton of back and forth go, and then a third party comes in and does that. It's well after the play, its blatant, its right in front of the refs, and its a third party coming in to potentially escalate the skirmish. That's getting called every time.
4. Taunting penalty on Flowers. Again, blatant. Pushed a dude down, spun the ball by his head and flexes over him. So blatant its forcing the ref's hand.
5. Connors - should have been DPI on Likely
6. Non PI in the end zone. Sorry, you throw a trash pass into triple coverage and all three DBs are clamouring for the ball, that ain't getting called ever. And its a pretty beta look from the Baltimore fans crying that the refs didn't bail them out and throw a flag in that situation.
7. Unnecessary roughness on Roquan. Again, everyone knows what he's trying to take an encroachment penalty. No one is oblivious to that. Just encroach and be done with it. Instead the prick loads up and explodes into the head and face of a defenceless Trey Smith. Absolute cheap shot, hack move by yet another Ravens guy not in control of their emotions. That was a trash play that deserved getting flagged.

At the end of the day, the Ravens sent over their kicker to try and play mind games pregame with Mahomes. Think about that for a second. If that's not an all-time beta cuck move I'm not sure what is.

Chris Jones was tripped in the end zone when the Ravens were on their own 1-yard line. Pretty blatant. I believe it was their last drive. Should have been called a safety.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I maintain he knew they were going to lose so he wanted to cheap shot somebody.

He was trying to twist dudes ankles in piles all day, dude is a piece of shit.

They thought they were playing the Chiefs of old. Hit us in the mouth a couple of times and we fold. That isn't this team.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

A bitch and an idiot. He could have just jumped and tapped him to do the same shit. It would have made it less obvious.

It actually worked for them anyway.

We can decline that penalty, right? If it's a simple offsides, I'm betting we just decline the thing.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lol, when did I say either of those flags were weak?



Anyway, at least of the holding calls on Taylor was a weak call. The second one, iirc, wasn't holding. - Correct

The unnecessary roughness on Roquon (when he jumped off-sides and ran into Trey) was kind of weak. - Every NFL analyst since last night going into today said it was the right call - not weak

The flag against BAL after the altercation between Travis and Queen or whoever was pretty weak for a playoff game. You mean the Van Noy head butt? Re-watch that and you'll see it was a blatant PF that occurs AFTER the ref had stepped in. That's a no-no

And KC committed DPI at least twice that wasn't called. - Show your work. The play that Lamar launched 20 yards OOB should have been a Defensive Hold, but not a PI. That's the only legit one

And there were probably a couple more, but I haven't rewatched the game and I missed part of the first quarter.

But again, the refs this season have been terrible, so it's not like any of this was a surprise.

Answers above.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It actually worked for them anyway.

We can decline that penalty, right? If it's a simple offsides, I'm betting we just decline the thing.

And if it happened to the Bills....they'd be looking at it this offseason.

[CaptainMorgan]

Originally Posted by kpic

While this thread has been great discussion and I've enjoyed reading it all...

SiriusXM NFl channel interviewed Mahomes after the game and he basically said almost the exact thing DJ is alluding to, nothing about missing opportunities, not executing etc. so we can take it from the man himself that appears to be what they were in fact doing there.

"What an idiot. Should have been going for kill shots to score 40 points!" - Dan Campbell

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Glad we got to see posts like this in the GDT during the 2nd half.

It's funny how so many people want to run the ball more and play good defense, and when that happens, people freak out that the two score game against a team that's scored once in 3 quarters is too close for comfort (I'm sure there's at least some overlap there).

It reminded me of those 2021 games, like against the Cowboys where neither team really had anything on offense, but the score may have been exactly the same... and it's just uncomfortable for people.

I read a few "the offense will have to win this" comments when the Ravens were driving a bit, and sure enough, Lamar throws an interception.

I totally get why they're uncomfortable in the sense that crazy shit happens, but just assuming it will happen and the defense will fail is kind of absurd at this point of the season, and against an offense like that... because Chiefs has no bounds.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It actually worked for them anyway.

We can decline that penalty, right? If it's a simple offsides, I'm betting we just decline the thing.

Yep, seemed pretty obvious that was the goal.

He just taps him, we decline it anyway. He jumps offsides, we get a shot at a free play.

Committing the personal foul was the only surefire way to get the result they wanted.

I think Harbaugh is a huge douche, but he knows ball.