Anyone listening to 810

[Chiefnj]

It is being discussed elsewhere that St. John on 810 this morning said there were issues with Trotter's physical given by KC? Any truth to this from anyone who listens to the show?

[keg in kc]

I also think all it will take to reinvigorate the fan base is a couple of signings and then (this is most important) just one, single, solitary playoff win.

[nmt1]

Originally Posted by bricks

what kills me as a fan of this team, is, the fact we missed the playoffs 7 of the last 8 years, and, we still keep the same GM. Our drafts have stunk over the past years, and, we still keep the same guy in charge, Lynn Stiles. I don't get it You can only be so loyal with ppl, and if they cant get the job done then your loyalty becomes a fault. I think that's the case with Lamar, he's too too too loyal to an absolute fault. Carl isn't doing his job, Stiles has drafted ineffective players. Carl shoulda fired Lyn, Lamar shoulda fired Carl. Our organization needs to grow a set of balls and fire those that aren't performing.
In turn, ppl aren't happy what else can I say.

Have you been buying season tickets even though things have been this bad? If so, then it's your fault.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by nmt1

You don't understand how it works. I was like you before. I got so upset about the playoff loss to Denver back in 97 that I didn't speak for a couple of hours. I decided after some thought that I was acting like a spoiled brat and that it is stupid to be so upset about something I have no control over and something that has a very small effect on my life.
I love the Chiefs but I don't need them to prop up my psyche.

You obviously don't get the deeper meaning of the phrase. I'm less disappointed than you because I have lesser or no expectations.

Actually, it was the Indy loss in 1995...dang, that was a long time ago.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I also think all it will take to reinvigorate the fan base is a couple of signings and then (this is most important) just one, single, solitary playoff win.

I agree...heck, a playoff win this year would be equivalent to a SB win in my book.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

I agree...heck, a playoff win this year would be equivalent to a SB win in my book.

Me too.

Baby steps.

[nmt1]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

Actually, it was the Indy loss in 1995...dang, that was a long time ago.

I was upset about that too but I remember specifically being horribly upset after that Denver game. Man, I can't stand Elway and that game just capped it for me.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Me too.

Baby steps.

BABY? F! No! That would be a giant leap for Chiefs-kind!

[nmt1]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Me too.

Baby steps.

Baby steps...to heck with that. I'll be happy with 8-8 as it will be one game better than what we did this past season.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

I agree...heck, a playoff win this year would be equivalent to a SB win in my book.

I've started wondering if maybe the team hasn't lost hope, too, although they've had enough turnover that it shouldn't matter. I mean you can say you believe in yourself, but it's been 12 years since they won a meaningful game. Maybe one win is all they really need. Hell, I still think if they'd gotten by Indy in '03 they'd have beaten New England. But we'll never know.

Maybe there's a ghost that needs to be exorcised, is all I'm saying.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by nmt1

Baby steps...to heck with that. I'll be happy with 8-8 as it will be one game better than what we did this past season.

I'll always be disappointed with anything less than a playoff appearance. That's just my nature. Doesn't have anything to do with thinking I'm entitled to it or anything, I'm just the kind of guy who doesn't deal well with losing.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I've started wondering if maybe the team hasn't lost hope, too, although they've had enough turnover that it shouldn't matter. I mean you can say you believe in yourself, but it's been 12 years since they won a meaningful game. Maybe one win is all they really need. Hell, I still think if they'd gotten by Indy in '03 they'd have beaten New England. But we'll never know.

Maybe there's a ghost that needs to be exorcised, is all I'm saying.

Yeah, The 'monkey on the back' thing...like Philly's 'getting over the hump' this year.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by nmt1

Baby steps...to heck with that. I'll be happy with 8-8 as it will be one game better than what we did this past season.

Dude, 8-8?

Somebody slap this ****er!

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by nmt1

I honestly have no idea how much risk Lamar is willing to endure. Though I do know it would be stupid for him to sell the Chiefs. It's one of his biggest money makers, I'd guess.
I don't care what today's fan expects. They pay for 8 football games and they get 8 football games. They don't pay for guaranteed Superbowl victories.

I'm sorry, but this is a line of sh*t.

When I pay for a round of golf, I expect more than 18 holes in the ground. When I pay for a hamburger, I expect it to not taste like crap. I buy products with a certain expectation of quality. I also believe that the green fees at Pebble beach should get me a nicer course than the local goat trail.

I'm paying to watch football games at the highest level. Part of my expectation is that the team I pay to support puts forth maximum effort to give me a quality product. Just like my favorite golf course, I realize that not everything is completely predictable, but I also know the difference between dry conditions due to a drought, and dry conditions due to trying to save money on the water bill.

I'm not saying that I believe the FO is intentionally losing or doesn't care. But I do believe that they have played the safe route with mediocre results for long enough that it's time to take a risk. Chiefs fans are smart enough to recognize that the offense we currently have is not something that comes along often. We've had 15 years of making sure the boat floats, now it's time to set sail, even if we have to rock the boat to do it.

[Mark M]

Not to be nit-picky, but fans pay for 10 games a year, not 8 ...

well, except for "true" fans -- they don't want to give any more money to that cheapass Lamar Hunt. Only fans that don't care about winning would do such a thing.

MM
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[nmt1]

Originally Posted by jspchief

I'm sorry, but this is a line of sh*t.

When I pay for a round of golf, I expect more than 18 holes in the ground. When I pay for a hamburger, I expect it to not taste like crap. I buy products with a certain expectation of quality. I also believe that the green fees at Pebble beach should get me a nicer course than the local goat trail.

I'm paying to watch football games at the highest level. Part of my expectation is that the team I pay to support puts forth maximum effort to give me a quality product. Just like my favorite golf course, I realize that not everything is completely predictable, but I also know the difference between dry conditions due to a drought, and dry conditions due to trying to save money on the water bill.

I'm not saying that I believe the FO is intentionally losing or doesn't care. But I do believe that they have played the safe route with mediocre results for long enough that it's time to take a risk. Chiefs fans are smart enough to recognize that the offense we currently have is not something that comes along often. We've had 15 years of making sure the boat floats, now it's time to set sail, even if we have to rock the boat to do it.

You expect that hamburger to taste great and when it doesn't do you go and buy another one? You expect that golf course to be somewhat well kept but when it isn't, do you go back?
The Chiefs aren't living up to your expectations. Why do you continue to eat the hamburger from McCarl's and play golf at Arrowhead CC?