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Old 03-02-2009, 08:22 AM  
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A dash of Curry solidifies Chiefs defense.

Obviously, the Chiefs are going to the 3-4.

Lets look at the Defensive line first. The Chiefs have a couple of guys in Boone and McBride that are DE/DT hybrids. They will be able to play DE in the 3-4. McBride has focused on staying slim while in the NFL becuse he was playing end in the 4-3. He will be allowed to Bulk up. Boone is a heck of a fit in the 3-4 as well.

Dorsey often tied up two blockers last year. He will also be allowed to go inside and outside. Perhaps not the prototypical NT... but a guy who has flexibility and will be better at NT than some in here realize. In college, he was asked to merely hold the line of scrimage. He wasn't asked to get upfield. In the 3-4, it will be very similar whether he plays end or NT.

Tank will play the nose exclusively, which should be a good fit on run downs. We also still have Ron Edwards, who is a big body that can rotate in at NT.

Now, linebacker, the OLB's are Hali and Vrabel. Hali should get double digit sacks this year with the switch to the 3-4. He won't be on the line every down which should keep the wear and tear on his body down a bit. It will allow him to be in space, which he plays well in.

I know that some don't think he is fast enough. I think those guys are foolish, but then again, they think I am foolish for thinking he will be a great fit. The great thing is that we will get to see this year who is right.

DJ will move inside. This will help DJ's game. The defensive line for the 3-4 isn't trying to get upfield. They are merely trying to hold the line of scrimage. This will allow DJ to play sideline to sideline and make more plays.

Now, the secondary was pretty good last year. Bernard Pollard will be allowed to play inside the box more and Page will be more of a traditional safety. Morgan is the x factor here because he has more ranged than Pollard and is a better tackler than Page.

The Chiefs starting corners are pretty solid with Carr and Flowers. With the additional pass rush that the Chiefs should be getting, I expect that these guys will do just fine.

Now, comes the spice of the defense.... Curry. Curry is an absolute beast that will roam the middle of the field and make tackle after tackle. Curry is good in coverage, and will be able to rush the passer from the middle of the field on blitz's. This will allow him to be more effective rushing the passer. Inside blitzes are effective because of the speed of the blitzer and a lane created by the outside rush. Curry is fast enough, that he will be able to disquise the blitzes very well and won't have to be close to the line of scrimage to be effective. Curry is the best fit for this team at #3, and will make the biggest impact of any player the Chiefs can draft IMO.

I know I will get flamed for this. I know that some think that McBride, Hali and Dorsey are busts. I think that they are players in the Patriots mold. Guys who love the game, who are smart and who never give up.

I hope that Curry somehow falls to the Chiefs, because if he does, the Chiefs will have a defense that will be at least top half of the league next year, if not top 10.

He is a dynamic leader on defense, and I think the next Ray Lewis. As such, I think he is worth the #3 pick.

Now, flame away. After having the Chiefs effectively remove the option of drafting the dirty Sanchez.... nothing can bring me down....
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:28 AM   #151
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I really don't even care anymore. This is a shitty year to draft #3. I wanted Stafford and would settle for Sanchez but it doesn't matter now because we traded for Cassel who hopefully isn't a one year wonder(odds are he is though). We drafted a LT last year and don't need another, Crabtree isn't a top WR most years, and LB'ers just aren't worth a top three pick. The best possible thing we can do is trade down but I doubt that happens. Personally I feel Haley drafts Crabtree though, if not he gets another LT and moved Albert to OG to help keep Cassel up-right. Curry I think would be the last option, I feel sorry for the Chiefs if Pioli is such a bad drafter he can't find LB's outside of the top 3.
I'd rather see the Chiefs draft Maclin than Crabtree at #3. This would not be a smart move, but it would be better than selecting Crabtree, IMO.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:29 AM   #152
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I really don't even care anymore. This is a shitty year to draft #3. I wanted Stafford and would settle for Sanchez but it doesn't matter now because we traded for Cassel who hopefully isn't a one year wonder(odds are he is though). We drafted a LT last year and don't need another, Crabtree isn't a top WR most years, and LB'ers just aren't worth a top three pick. The best possible thing we can do is trade down but I doubt that happens. Personally I feel Haley drafts Crabtree though, if not he gets another LT and moved Albert to OG to help keep Cassel up-right. Curry I think would be the last option, I feel sorry for the Chiefs if Pioli is such a bad drafter he can't find LB's outside of the top 3.
I think were gonna trade down. We've got Scott Pioli and It's just the New England way of doing things.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:30 AM   #153
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I'd rather see the Chiefs draft Maclin than Crabtree at #3. This would not be a smart move, but it would be better than selecting Crabtree, IMO.
A ****in' men. Crabtree does not jazz me in the slightest anymore. We need a burner, his foot is jacked, and will it ever be the same?

Is he worth 3rd overall salary? **** no.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:30 AM   #154
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I think were gonna trade down. We've got Scott Pioli and It's just the New England way of doing things.
I am going to be shocked if there's a team that wants to trade up to #3 this year.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:30 AM   #155
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Until someone gives an example of a player that played LB in college and successfully made the transition to 3-4 OLB, the point is moot.
only two I can think of are LT and Derrick.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:31 AM   #156
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A ****in' men. Crabtree does not jazz me in the slightest anymore. We need a burner, his foot is jacked, and will it ever be the same?

Is he worth 3rd overall salary? **** no.
Neither is Maclin, though. I like him better than Ginn, but not nearly enough for #3. It would not be a "smart" selection.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:32 AM   #157
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They're going to have to make SEVERAL exceptions if they plan on going 3-4 right away.

None of our existing DL would be ideal starters in a 3-4. Some of them might be backups at various positions, but we have no starters.

DJ is a starting ILB in a 3-4. Other than him and Vrabel (who might be a backup at this point) we have no starters at LB, either.

Pollard MIGHT be a decent SS in a pressure D. Page has no position, and both of our CB's are zone guys who might struggle in a pressure D.

By my count, your scenario of not making exceptions would require us to get TEN new defensive players this offseason. That's not going to happen.
Page isn't a perfect safety, but what about the 3-4 hurts him?
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I am going to be shocked if there's a team that wants to trade up to #3 this year.
did you feel that way after this weekends trade?
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Neither is Maclin, though. I like him better than Ginn, but not nearly enough for #3. It would not be a "smart" selection.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:35 AM   #160
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I really think Its between Crabtree or a LT for the Chiefs.
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I'd agree if he did anything well, ran well, played the run well something..

Hell I think Brian Johnston has a better shot of being a 3-4 role guy out there than Hali does.

Now I think Flowers will be fine, and I don't particularly like the safeties and most of the front 7 needed to be replaced anyway.
Brian Johnston might shine.

I don't think Flowers will be hurt as much as people think.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:36 AM   #162
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I really don't even care anymore. This is a shitty year to draft #3. I wanted Stafford and would settle for Sanchez but it doesn't matter now because we traded for Cassel who hopefully isn't a one year wonder(odds are he is though). We drafted a LT last year and don't need another, Crabtree isn't a top WR most years, and LB'ers just aren't worth a top three pick. The best possible thing we can do is trade down but I doubt that happens. Personally I feel Haley drafts Crabtree though, if not he gets another LT and moved Albert to OG to help keep Cassel up-right. Curry I think would be the last option, I feel sorry for the Chiefs if Pioli is such a bad drafter he can't find LB's outside of the top 3.
Wait till you see the thread that says the Lions were gonna trade for Cassell...
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:38 AM   #163
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I really think Its between Crabtree or a LT for the Chiefs.
Left Tackle please.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:43 AM   #164
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Left Tackle please.
Depends on how our coaching staff views Albert -v- whatever LT is available (most ratings have Monroe #1).

If we're going to reach at #3, might as well reach for need. Maclin fills two roles of need (slot WR and returner). Raji fills a need (NT). Everett Brown fills a need (rush LB in 3-4), Rey Maualuga (ILB run-stuffing attacking backer in 3-4)
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A slot wr/returner that would be even worse at 3 than Curry or essentially taking a RT.
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