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Old 06-16-2010, 02:49 PM   #1
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FWIW, MLK and Rainier Ave is a major intersection...4 lanes crossing 4 lanes. It's also right next to a high school. I've almost hit a couple of people right there. A lot of people that jaywalk at that spot like to mosey in an infuriatingly, indignant pace also...like as slow as possible to give the maximum a-hole experience. I got NO problem cops citing people for that.
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:46 PM   #2
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FWIW, MLK and Rainier Ave is a major intersection...4 lanes crossing 4 lanes. It's also right next to a high school. I've almost hit a couple of people right there. A lot of people that jaywalk at that spot like to mosey in an infuriatingly, indignant pace also...like as slow as possible to give the maximum a-hole experience. I got NO problem cops citing people for that.
I'm reading through this thread and jaywalking really has nothing to do with this. At all. A police officer was assaulted (even if by a very thin line) and reacted in the best way possible AFAIC.

But that said, Chiefless is right. Jaywalking is a problem at certain intersections, and for some reason people like to pretend that they're way more important than cars trying to drive on the roads, while they're jaywalking none the less. Good for the cop for writing the citation. Sometimes it's deserved, sometimes it's not. I'm assuming if he took the time to stop them for it, there's a reason.
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Old 06-16-2010, 02:52 PM   #3
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I have no problems with the cop hitting her. Better than a taser or gun.

But jaywalking? I mean are cops that bored they have to annoy people because of jaywalking?
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:00 PM   #4
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:00 PM   #5
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I love how these guys with the cell phone cameras think they've just caught the next Rodney King video.

If I'm the cop, I thank both of the people that video taped the whole thing. He'd have been in some trouble had these 'unbiased' witnesses testified that he just smoked this girl for no reason. And make no mistake, that's exactly what Mr. "are you serious" would have said in a trial situation.

Then I turn the video into a PSA.
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:17 PM   #6
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I love how these guys with the cell phone cameras think they've just caught the next Rodney King video.

If I'm the cop, I thank both of the people that video taped the whole thing. He'd have been in some trouble had these 'unbiased' witnesses testified that he just smoked this girl for no reason. And make no mistake, that's exactly what Mr. "are you serious" would have said in a trial situation.

Then I turn the video into a PSA.
Exactly. No way that cop gets a fair shake if there is no video. The irony is, all those guys are taking video thinking that they are going to screw this cop.

I could never be a cop. Dude was getting surrounded and I bet pretty nervous. If the crowd isn't there messing with the cop, she probably shuts the **** up and does what she's told...
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:16 PM   #7
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Here's what we now know about the two "kids" in the video - 19-year old Marilyn Ellen Levias and 17-year-old Angel Rosenthal:

Rosenthal was charged in November with second-degree robbery. According to prosecutors, she punched a 15-year-old boy in the face while she and a group of youths were on their way to a rave in South Seattle last Aug. 28. The boy told police that his cellphone and $20 were stolen in the incident. A 14-year-old boy told police that he was punched in the head and his hat was stolen.

Authorities say the case was dismissed when the boys refused to testify.

In April 2008, Rosenthal was charged with third-degree theft after she allegedly stole a minivan in Tukwila, prosecutors said. Kent police said she used a screwdriver to break the ignition and start the vehicle.

The charge was later amended to theft of a motor vehicle. Rosenthal was given a deferred disposition — charges would be dropped if she stayed out of trouble — because it was a first-time offense, said Ian Goodhew, deputy chief of staff for Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg.

Levias was charged in February 2009 with third-degree assault after she allegedly pushed a King County sheriff's deputy down.

According to charging documents, on Feb. 3, 2009, deputies were called to the Ruth Dykeman Children's Center, a Burien center for troubled girls, in response to a report that Levias was being abusive toward staff. When Levias was confronted by Deputy Amy Zarelli, she pushed the female deputy, causing her to fall, charging papers said.

Levias was given a deferred disposition because it was a first-time offense, Goodhew said.
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:19 PM   #8
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Here's what we now know about the two "kids" in the video - 19-year old Marilyn Ellen Levias and 17-year-old Angel Rosenthal:

Rosenthal was charged in November with second-degree robbery. According to prosecutors, she punched a 15-year-old boy in the face while she and a group of youths were on their way to a rave in South Seattle last Aug. 28. The boy told police that his cellphone and $20 were stolen in the incident. A 14-year-old boy told police that he was punched in the head and his hat was stolen.

Authorities say the case was dismissed when the boys refused to testify.

In April 2008, Rosenthal was charged with third-degree theft after she allegedly stole a minivan in Tukwila, prosecutors said. Kent police said she used a screwdriver to break the ignition and start the vehicle.

The charge was later amended to theft of a motor vehicle. Rosenthal was given a deferred disposition — charges would be dropped if she stayed out of trouble — because it was a first-time offense, said Ian Goodhew, deputy chief of staff for Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg.

Levias was charged in February 2009 with third-degree assault after she allegedly pushed a King County sheriff's deputy down.

According to charging documents, on Feb. 3, 2009, deputies were called to the Ruth Dykeman Children's Center, a Burien center for troubled girls, in response to a report that Levias was being abusive toward staff. When Levias was confronted by Deputy Amy Zarelli, she pushed the female deputy, causing her to fall, charging papers said.

Levias was given a deferred disposition because it was a first-time offense, Goodhew said.

And there you go have it...
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:22 PM   #9
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Here's what we now know about the two "kids" in the video - 19-year old Marilyn Ellen Levias and 17-year-old Angel Rosenthal:

Rosenthal was charged in November with second-degree robbery. According to prosecutors, she punched a 15-year-old boy in the face while she and a group of youths were on their way to a rave in South Seattle last Aug. 28. The boy told police that his cellphone and $20 were stolen in the incident. A 14-year-old boy told police that he was punched in the head and his hat was stolen.

Authorities say the case was dismissed when the boys refused to testify.

In April 2008, Rosenthal was charged with third-degree theft after she allegedly stole a minivan in Tukwila, prosecutors said. Kent police said she used a screwdriver to break the ignition and start the vehicle.

The charge was later amended to theft of a motor vehicle. Rosenthal was given a deferred disposition — charges would be dropped if she stayed out of trouble — because it was a first-time offense, said Ian Goodhew, deputy chief of staff for Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg.

Levias was charged in February 2009 with third-degree assault after she allegedly pushed a King County sheriff's deputy down.

According to charging documents, on Feb. 3, 2009, deputies were called to the Ruth Dykeman Children's Center, a Burien center for troubled girls, in response to a report that Levias was being abusive toward staff. When Levias was confronted by Deputy Amy Zarelli, she pushed the female deputy, causing her to fall, charging papers said.

Levias was given a deferred disposition because it was a first-time offense, Goodhew said.
"But it was just a teenage girl!"

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Old 06-16-2010, 03:25 PM   #10
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"But it was just a teenage girl!"

Once again - Hootie is a moron.
So past record is now justification for police overreaction to jaywalking?
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:28 PM   #11
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So past record is now justification for police overreaction to jaywalking?
No, shoving a cop is justification for a cop punching the offender.

The past record gives us a hell of a lot of insight into how said offenders were behaving in advance of the recording. Wanna bet they didn't just apologize for breaking the freakin' law and walking across an incredibly busy stretch of road when there's a damn pedestrian overpass nearby?

To characterize this as an overreaction to jaywalking is to simply ignore the fact that the offenders in question fueled this entire situation by putting the officer in a position where he had little choice but to defend himself with violence.

But I'm sure these innocent little flowers did nothing to engender said angst.
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:28 PM   #12
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So past record is now justification for police overreaction to jaywalking?
Luckily, he didn't hit her because she was jaywalking.
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:37 PM   #13
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So past record is now justification for police overreaction to jaywalking?
Pretty sure she didn't get punched for jaywalking.
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:52 PM   #14
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"But it was just a teenage girl!"

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are you kidding me??!?!

I've spouted my racist thoughts about black people all over this thread...

the only reason they were getting harassed for jaywalking was because of the fact they were black...

DUH

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"But it was just a teenage girl!"

Once again - Hootie is a moron.
Hootie just wants to bang them...you know how chocolate can't resist a lvl 50 halo.
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