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Old 11-21-2017, 03:31 PM   #1
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I cant believe there are numb nuts who are dumb enough to try to make the case against Mahomes after watching Smith play the last 4 weeks and in years past.

You seriously have to be a special kind of stupid at this point to try to claim we hav ea better shot of winning anything with Smith.

We may not win anything with Mahomes but at least he would see the field and get prepared for next year. And I am convinced we woudl win as much or more with Mahomes at this point.

We aren't winning anything with Smith so this is a waste of time moving forward with him playing QB. To think otherwise is just ignorant pig headed dumbassery.

Its that simple.

If I can see this, and I have given Smith every benefit for MOST of his time in KC, I dont see how anyone cant see this.
what team do you coach for? I'm just a fan....
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Old 11-21-2017, 03:32 PM   #2
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I cant believe there are numb nuts who are dumb enough to try to make the case against Mahomes after watching Smith play the last 4 weeks and in years past.

You seriously have to be a special kind of stupid at this point to try to claim we hav ea better shot of winning anything with Smith.

We may not win anything with Mahomes but at least he would see the field and get prepared for next year. And I am convinced we woudl win as much or more with Mahomes at this point.

We aren't winning anything with Smith so this is a waste of time moving forward with him playing QB. To think otherwise is just ignorant pig headed dumbassery.

Its that simple.

If I can see this, and I have given Smith every benefit for MOST of his time in KC, I dont see how anyone cant see this.
My only concern with Mahomes at this point is injury. He has the tendency to leave the pocket to make big plays ala Aaron Rodgers.

And like Aaron Rodgers he leaves himself open to get sidewalk slammed.

He seemed uncomfortable in the pocket in the preseason and at times would roll out when it wasn't needed.

With that said, start him.
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Old 11-21-2017, 03:45 PM   #3
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My only concern with Mahomes at this point is injury. He has the tendency to leave the pocket to make big plays ala Aaron Rodgers.

And like Aaron Rodgers he leaves himself open to get sidewalk slammed.

He seemed uncomfortable in the pocket in the preseason and at times would roll out when it wasn't needed.

With that said, start him.
He is going to play that way regardless of when he starts. He may learn after taking some hits, or maybe not. Either way week 11 this year or week 1 next year likely wont change that risk. Hell you could argue if he gets hurt this year we still have Smith and maybe he learns something from it. Next year we wont have Smith.

Cant make decisions based on fear of injury.
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:07 PM   #4
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He is going to play that way regardless of when he starts. He may learn after taking some hits, or maybe not. Either way week 11 this year or week 1 next year likely wont change that risk. Hell you could argue if he gets hurt this year we still have Smith and maybe he learns something from it. Next year we wont have Smith.

Cant make decisions based on fear of injury.
Right, but i'd hope that he's developed some comfort in the pocket so he doesn't feel the need to wiggle free most plays. We don't want him rolling out for no reason, and he did that several times in the Preseason.

I understand that that will always be part of his game, but ideally we'd want to him to do that when necessary, not just because.
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Old 11-21-2017, 03:46 PM   #5
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My only concern with Mahomes at this point is injury. He has the tendency to leave the pocket to make big plays ala Aaron Rodgers.

And like Aaron Rodgers he leaves himself open to get sidewalk slammed.

He seemed uncomfortable in the pocket in the preseason and at times would roll out when it wasn't needed.

With that said, start him.
That was my concern as well. Except more Big Ben and McNabb for now. The hope is he matures into Rodgers or Favre (but that still means taking a lot of hits). I don't think he looked uncomfortable in the pocket, though he does tend to roll out more than he needs to, but he does have confidence in throwing on the run and he should. I don't have an issue with him rolling out. More of when he waits until the last minute to unload the ball knowing he'll get whacked and a few runs where he tried to get extra yards instead of just running out of bounds.

That being said, the Seattle game was a sign that he was learning fast. Made a lot of really smart throwaways that in previous games he would have stuck in there to take the hit.
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:02 PM   #6
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As a Mizzou fan that is going through the depression of Michael Porter Jr's injury right now, I could REALLY REALLY use a big pick me up with the announcement that Patrick Mahomes will make his first NFL start Sunday...But because #Chiefs that won't happen.
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:52 PM   #7
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:02 PM   #8
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It's kind of franchise-defining at this point, Otter.

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My only concern with Mahomes at this point is injury. He has the tendency to leave the pocket to make big plays ala Aaron Rodgers.

And like Aaron Rodgers he leaves himself open to get sidewalk slammed.

He seemed uncomfortable in the pocket in the preseason and at times would roll out when it wasn't needed.

With that said, start him.
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He is going to play that way regardless of when he starts. He may learn after taking some hits, or maybe not. Either way week 11 this year or week 1 next year likely wont change that risk. Hell you could argue if he gets hurt this year we still have Smith and maybe he learns something from it. Next year we wont have Smith.

Cant make decisions based on fear of injury.
This. At some point, our boy has to become a man and we're not going to get there with Mahomes riding the pine.
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:13 PM   #9
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It's kind of franchise-defining at this point, Otter.
Dude, no one is more excited about Pat than I am but making 60 posts a day on a message board and ruining every thread on a message board that isn't even associated with the Chiefs Franchise gets kind of old. Arrow wants Pat to start. We get it.

If you're that passionate about it look up the coaches mailing address and write them a letter or send them an email. Pissing on a bunch of people just trying to have a conversation gets kinda old.

What exactly is Arrow accomplishing outside of being a broken record?
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You couldn't piss me off if tried boy. Enjoy being the newest village idiot and congrats!
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Guys, I'm excited about Mahomes too and got black out drunk the night we drafted him because, well, finally.

But JFC. Everyone in this thread is jerking off to him like we have someone who is a guaranteed hit. I'm tired of Alex as well, but there's at least a 25% chance that Mahomes takes us to a 6-10 record next year with 15 TDs and 15 INTs. My modal expectation is he's better than that, but who knows? (And if you cite preseason nonsense, it's not even worth responding to you.)
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Guys, I'm excited about Mahomes too and got black out drunk the night we drafted him because, well, finally.

But JFC. Everyone in this thread is jerking off to him like we have someone who is a guaranteed hit. I'm tired of Alex as well, but there's at least a 25% chance that Mahomes takes us to a 6-10 record next year with 15 TDs and 15 INTs. My modal expectation is he's better than that, but who knows? (And if you cite preseason nonsense, it's not even worth responding to you.)
We already know how this story ends with Alex. I don't care if Mahomes came in and struggled the rest of the season, it's time to move on and develop our QBOTF with actual in-game experience. Worked out pretty well for the LA Rams and Philly Eagles doing that last year, didn't it?

This Chiefs season is going nowhere fast with Alex at the helm and with the defense depleted. Time for the future to begin.
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We already know how this story ends with Alex. I don't care if Mahomes came in and struggled the rest of the season, it's time to move on and develop our QBOTF with actual in-game experience. Worked out pretty well for the LA Rams and Philly Eagles doing that last year, didn't it?

This Chiefs season is going nowhere fast with Alex at the helm and with the defense depleted. Time for the future to begin.
Yes, but this has worked out far less than it's worked. You can name more top 10-15 QB picks who have failed than the opposite.

My only goal with Alex is to win a home playoff game in the divisional round. We deserve that as Chiefs fans.
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