Final Ten Things About the 2017 Season

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

Why would buffalo be laughing all the way to the podium with our pick? We have ****ing Mahomes they don't. I would do that trade over and over again no regrets

Obv, It was a stupid point

[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

Why would buffalo be laughing all the way to the podium with our pick? We have ****ing Mahomes they don't. I would do that trade over and over again no regrets

Look at the deal from Buffalo's perspective. They just had to move down 17 spots in last year's draft for flipping first round spots with us. With our pick last year, they took cornerback TreDavious White from LSU. So they got a shut down starting corner. They parlayed the number three pick we sent them by moving that pick to the LA Rams to move up in the second round to take wide receiver Zay Jones.

And they get our only first round pick (so far) in the upcoming 2018 draft. We don't know exactly where that pick will be, but probably around 27 again.

When the Bills played the Chiefs this season, they came to Arrowhead and beat us in our own house. We didn't even play the guy we moved up to draft. Zay Jones had a TD catch to start the game and give the Bills a lead. White had the game snuffing interception on Alex Smith to ice the game.

The Bills went as far as we did in the Playoffs this year. And they have our number one pick going in to this draft. At this point we don't know who they'll take with that pick, or if they deal it to move up in the 2018 draft themselves, as they'll still have their number one pick as well.

The guy we got for the pick played in one game this season in a meaningless game.

So, as far as 2017 goes, the Bills definitely got the better of the deal in terms of impact. Bills plugged two glaring needs, one on offense, and one on defense, and have two first round picks as draft capital in 2018.

Now, if Mahomes ends up being the savior of this franchise and a marquee player for ten years, then yes, the trade will be well worth it. But up to this point in the exchange, the Bills have definitely enjoyed a more immediate positive impact.

The true long term value of the trade and its full results are still pending. And the Chiefs may get a first round pick back for 2018 by dealing Alex or other players. It's a long way to June.

The amusing thing to me is, both GMs who consummated the trade both got canned immediately afterwards. That tells me there may have been some discontent with the arrangement in both camps.

[cooper barrett]

Thanks George, your thoughts are always welcome, I will await 10 things about the draft ever though it will be only four.

[bricks]

You know what I never understood?

Why do the Chiefs keep guys past their time?

We see it happen all the ****ing time! And it drives me nuts!

Guys like Hali should’ve been cut long time ago. Same could be said for DJ.

Sutton should’ve been fired imo after that playoff collapse against the Colts.

Carl Peterson should’ve been fired a long time ago but he had to resign in order for us to get rid of him. Anyway, these are a few examples that I thought of off the top of my head that I thought I’d throw out there. I’m sure there are more.

And I really feel the same thing is gonna happen with Andy Reid. It just seems like things always have to get to the point where guys have to wear out their welcome here due to a lack of due diligence constantly being displayed by this organization.

How could you ever build a good team that way?

[Mecca]

I think we should trade Peters so instead of just getting torched on one side of the field it can be both.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I think we should trade Peters so instead of just getting torched on one side of the field it can be both.

lol

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I think we should trade Peters so instead of just getting torched on one side of the field it can be both.

[Sassy Squatch]

Peters is the one who tried to put the whole city on his back going for that strip and score in the clutch, and he damn near pulled it off. **** anything to do with getting rid of him.

[otherstar]

Thanks George. I'm actually glad I got called by the ex to help her with a project rather than watch the game.

[Marcellus]

Nice work George but I'm not near as doom and gloom as you are about next season.

Not sure why you say Buffalo will be laughing all the way to the podium with our pick? From what I have seen in Mahomes so far its looks like he will be well worth the 2 1st round picks.

Also I think using the 2 1st rounders on a QB in the draft kind of flies in the face of Hunt doesn't care about winning narrative.

We need to fix the defense and fire Sutton but we are in pretty good shape talent and $ wise if we are smart this off season.

Veach is going to be key to this off season.

[bricks]

Peters value is at a premium right now; with him the defense still sucks but is in need of a major overhaul.

What difference does it make if we keep him provided that the defense still sucks? They’re still gonna suck anyway provided that they keep Sutton. Peters is only one guy. One piece to the puzzle that isn’t even as important compared to other areas of the defense like def coordinator, pass rusher, etc.

The message is quite simple defense needs a rebuild and at this point in time it’s about getting our priorities in order. They could trade Peters and maybe get a 1st rounder for him? That would be excellent value and I’d do it in a heartbeat if it means getting a top pass rusher through the draft. Even if we can’t find a better corner to replace him, we could still get excellent value for him in return and address other important areas of the defense. Jmo.

*Besides we shouldn’t even be thinking about keeping Peters at this point. We should be thinking about stripping this whole defense down and rebuilding it from the bottom up. We just have to rebuild there and in order to do that, we need the best possible value by getting the best draft pick possible or trying to as many draft picks as possible. You want good value? You need to give up something to get something good in return. That’s how it goes sometimes. Something has to give.

Heck, I’d Trade him and Alex Smith to Cleveland.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by bricks

Peters value is at a premium right now; with him the defense still sucks but is in need of a major overhaul.

What difference does it make if we keep him provided that the defense still sucks? They’re still gonna suck anyway provided that they keep Sutton. Peters is only one guy. One piece to the puzzle that isn’t even as important compared to other areas of the defense like def coordinator, pass rusher, etc.

The message is quite simple defense needs a rebuild and at this point in time it’s about getting our priorities in order. They could trade Peters and maybe get a 1st rounder for him? That would be excellent value and I’d do it in a heartbeat if it means getting a top pass rusher through the draft. Even if we can’t find a better corner to replace him, we could still get excellent value for him in return and address other important areas of the defense. Jmo.

*Besides we shouldn’t even be thinking about keeping Peters at this point. We should be thinking about stripping this whole defense down and rebuilding it from the bottom up. We just have to rebuild there and in order to do that, we need the best possible value by getting the best draft pick possible or trying to as many draft picks as possible. You want good value? You need to give up something to get something good in return. That’s how it goes sometimes. Something has to give.

Heck, I’d Trade him and Alex Smith to Cleveland.

Good idea. Lets just completely rip the ass out of this defense instead of supplementing the 5 talented guys we already have.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Good idea. Lets just completely rip the ass out of this defense instead of supplementing the 5 talented guys we already have.

Which 5 are you talking about?

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

Which 5 are you talking about?

Jones, Houston, Ragland, Peters, Berry.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Good idea. Lets just completely rip the ass out of this defense instead of supplementing the 5 talented guys we already have.

When a house collapses, what do you do? Patch it up here and there?! No. You gotta build it all over again! Same concept with the defense.