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Old 12-18-2007, 10:41 PM   #1
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That team....doesn't have 7-9 talent......it has 4-12 5-11 talent.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:45 PM   #2
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I don't think Herm is a very good coach either, but at the same time I don't think this team would be any good even with a great coach.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:49 PM   #3
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I don't think Herm is a very good coach either, but at the same time I don't think this team would be any good even with a great coach.
Well...on the former point we agree...on the latter, we disagree. I don't think the talent on this team is close to championship level at all...but I don't believe their talent should yield a 4-12 record...especially in this division.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:52 PM   #4
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I don't think Herm is a very good coach either, but at the same time I don't think this team would be any good even with a great coach.
Disagree. Buffalo was predicted to finish 4th in their conference, but Juaron did a hell of a job there, despite with the QB issues.

I can think of at least 3 games that the Chiefs COULD have won the game, have it not been for piss-poor coaching.

The Broncos game @ Arrowhead. Jesus, getting whipped by their JV squad was a piss-poor preperation by the coaching staff.

The Colts game @ Indy. Yes, I know the Colts weren't 100% in all areas, and we caught them when Manning was struggling terribly. But it was 10-10 and the game was there for the taking.

The Raiders game @ Arrowhead. Need I say more?
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:55 PM   #5
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Disagree. Buffalo was predicted to finish 4th in their conference, but Juaron did a hell of a job there, despite with the QB issues.

I can think of at least 3 games that the Chiefs COULD have won the game, have it not been for piss-poor coaching.

The Broncos game @ Arrowhead. Jesus, getting whipped by their JV squad was a piss-poor preperation by the coaching staff.

The Colts game @ Indy. Yes, I know the Colts weren't 100% in all areas, and we caught them when Manning was struggling terribly. But it was 10-10 and the game was there for the taking.

The Raiders game @ Arrowhead. Need I say more?
Buffalo has more talent than we do........even with their 15 guys on IR. They have a lot more when their team is healthy, just no one really notices.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:58 PM   #6
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Buffalo has more talent than we do........even with their 15 guys on IR. They have a lot more when their team is healthy, just no one really notices.
That's becuase the coaching staff in Buffalo have done a good job, despite 15 guys on IR.

That's a testament on how a fine job they done.

We only have what, 6-7 guys on IR? None of them are what you consider "starters"

The only major injury on a starter was Larry Johnson, and for some unknown reason, he's not on the IR.
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:05 PM   #7
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That's becuase the coaching staff in Buffalo have done a good job, despite 15 guys on IR.

That's a testament on how a fine job they done.

We only have what, 6-7 guys on IR? None of them are what you consider "starters"

The only major injury on a starter was Larry Johnson, and for some unknown reason, he's not on the IR.
But they still have a base.......the Chiefs really don't have much to compete with Lee Evans, Jason Peters, Derrick Dockery Donte Whitner and so forth.
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:12 AM   #8
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I don't think Herm is a very good coach either, but at the same time I don't think this team would be any good even with a great coach.
Are you serious?

you don't think this team would be good with a great coach?

that's like saying this team wouldn't be good if they had peyton manning either?

no offense, but that's a little overboard, and pure doom and gloom.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:53 PM   #9
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:59 PM   #10
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Oh that is lip service shit no question. I can see why Carl wants to be 8-8 every year there are a lot of fans in this town that can't even take 1 bad year, let alone 2 or 3.
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:00 PM   #11
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You don't have to be a dick, Mr. Mecca.

A lot of people are willing to take the losses associated with a "rebuild". No question about it. But, why make it more difficult than it has to be?

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Old 12-18-2007, 11:02 PM   #12
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You don't have to be a dick, Mr. Mecca.

A lot of people are willing to take the losses associated with a "rebuild". No question about it. But, why make it more difficult than it has to be?

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It was more a general comment than being a dick to you......look at how people react in general in the city after this year......
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It was more a general comment than being a dick to you......look at how people react in general in the city after this year......
People are acting this way because there is no plan. The team is in disarray. It wasn't a real rebuilding year, it was half-assed and will get half-assed results with continued poor coaching and poor personnel decisions.
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:10 PM   #14
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People are acting this way because there is no plan. The team is in disarray. It wasn't a real rebuilding year, it was half-assed and will get half-assed results with continued poor coaching and poor personnel decisions.
Now that pretty much sums it up really well. I however think there'd still be numerous people flipping out even if there was a real plan. I honestly have no faith in them to do it properly.
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Old 12-30-2007, 07:26 PM   #15
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The more time goes by, the more it sounds like Herm wanted to really rebuild and Carl was impeding him.

I'm not a Herm pimp, but seriously, nobody could have thought this team was going to be competitive. And Carl said on his radio show that they thought the oline would be good enough because they were veteran.

I don't think Herm is a good coach, but he had to know better than that.

This is 75% on Carl IMO
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