UFC 94 GSP vs BJ Penn

[raybec 4]

UFC 94 should be decent. GSP vs BJ Penn should be a very good fight. I will be rooting for Penn. I think if BJ can keep from getting gassed he could win. He's always had problems with his cardio at 170 though. Lyoto Machida vs Thiago Silva should be a great fight. I personally like the way Silva fights but Machida's manner and attitude so it will be a pick 'em for me.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

How does beating a guy coming up from 155 prove you are the best pound for pound? If he wants to be the best PfP fighter, then he needs to beat the best pound for pound fighter. Let's see him move up, like Penn did, and fight Anderson Silva.

My thoughts too, Silva moved up to 205 and completely blasted Irvin. I would love to see GSP vs Silva but he would need to fight some lesser competition at 185 first IMO.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

How does beating a guy coming up from 155 prove you are the best pound for pound? If he wants to be the best PfP fighter, then he needs to beat the best pound for pound fighter. Let's see him move up, like Penn did, and fight Anderson Silva.

AGREED

[RUSH]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

My thoughts too, Silva moved up to 205 and completely blasted Irvin. I would love to see GSP vs Silva but he would need to fight some lesser competition at 185 first IMO.

Come on now Irvin is terrible, that proves nothing. GSP can easily move up to 185 and blast the bums of that division as well. Hell I'll even say he would beat everyone other than maybe Anderson. Anderson can probably move up to 205 and beat most if not all of the LHW's too. GSP and Anderson have both wiped out their divisions in dominating fashion. I think GSP has been more impressive in doing so and has beat better competition, so that's why I give him the edge. I guess we will find out who's better once GSP wipes the floor with a roided up Thiago Alves. I can't think of a fight next for each fighter after Silva beats Leites and GSP beats Alves, so hopefully they go at it next.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Originally Posted by RUSH

Come on now Irvin is terrible, that proves nothing. GSP can easily move up to 185 and blast the bums of that division as well. Hell I'll even say he would beat everyone other than maybe Anderson. Anderson can probably move up to 205 and beat most if not all of the LHW's too. GSP and Anderson have both wiped out their divisions in dominating fashion. I think GSP has been more impressive in doing so and has beat better competition, so that's why I give him the edge. I guess we will find out who's better once GSP wipes the floor with a roided up Thiago Alves. I can't think of a fight next for each fighter after Silva beats Leites and GSP beats Alves, so hopefully they go at it next.

Possible but I doubt it. The UFC loses out on main events when it pits its champions against each other.

[RUSH]

And how is beating a top 5 fighter in the world twice being looked over as just beating a 155er. BJ was a champ at 170, so he can definitely fight at that weight and GSP just destroyed him. BJ and Matt Hughes are better than anyone Anderson has ever beaten and GSP has done so twice. Maybe you can argue Henderson, but he isn't as good when he's fighting at 185. I love Anderson too, but I just can't seem to put him ahead of GSP, especially after the Cote performance.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by RUSH

Come on now Irvin is terrible, that proves nothing. GSP can easily move up to 185 and blast the bums of that division as well. Hell I'll even say he would beat everyone other than maybe Anderson. Anderson can probably move up to 205 and beat most if not all of the LHW's too. GSP and Anderson have both wiped out their divisions in dominating fashion. I think GSP has been more impressive in doing so and has beat better competition, so that's why I give him the edge. I guess we will find out who's better once GSP wipes the floor with a roided up Thiago Alves. I can't think of a fight next for each fighter after Silva beats Leites and GSP beats Alves, so hopefully they go at it next.

Can and I'll say don't = did, however I'll concede Irvin is not the cream of the crop. I can't possibly see how GSP has been more dominant. Let's look at fact- Silva has not been to a decision in the UFC. He has fought Dan Henderson and Rich Franklin who are both natural 205 lbers and former champions. GSP lost to Matt ****ing Serra. That guy is terrible and should never be allowed to fight again.

GSP is not nearly as dominant as Silva. He has beaten guys in who are past their prime or above their natural weight. Let him move up and start winning and he could be in the same class as Silva.

[RUSH]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

Can and I'll say don't = did, however I'll concede Irvin is not the cream of the crop. I can't possibly see how GSP has been more dominant. Let's look at fact- Silva has not been to a decision in the UFC. He has fought Dan Henderson and Rich Franklin who are both natural 205 lbers and former champions. GSP lost to Matt ****ing Serra. That guy is terrible and should never be allowed to fight again.

GSP is not nearly as dominant as Silva. He has beaten guys in who are past their prime or above their natural weight. Let him move up and start winning and he could be in the same class as Silva.

Franklin and Henderson are worse at 185. And I'll change that "probably" to say that he can move up to 205 and beat all the top 205ers, other than Machida, but they would never fight anyway. Yeah GSP lost to Serra, it's MMA fluke stuff happens sometimes, much like how Anderson got caught by Ryo Chonan. He showed it was a fluke a year later. And I don't think going to decision should be a knock against a fighter. GSP and Anderson are different fighters. GSP's domination of Fitch was equally impressive as Anderson's KO's or TKO's over the various fighters he has fought in the UFC.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by RUSH

Franklin and Henderson are worse at 185. And I'll change that "probably" to say that he can move up to 205 and beat all the top 205ers, other than Machida, but they would never fight anyway. Yeah GSP lost to Serra, it's MMA fluke stuff happens sometimes, much like how Anderson got caught by Ryo Chonan. He showed it was a fluke a year later. And I don't think going to decision should be a knock against a fighter. GSP and Anderson are different fighters. GSP's domination of Fitch was equally impressive as Anderson's KO's or TKO's over the various fighters he has fought in the UFC.

I gotta disagree again and say dominating John Fitch and knocking out Rich Franklin or subbing Hendo are not even in the same ballpark much less equal.

And you are correct Silva looked bad against Chonan with that whole flying sizzer heel bullshit but, over the same time period it's my opinion that Silva has won his fights against top level competition in more impressive fashion.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

I gotta disagree again and say dominating John Fitch and knocking out Rich Franklin or subbing Hendo are not even in the same ballpark much less equal.

And you are correct Silva looked bad against Chonan with that whole flying sizzer heel bullshit but, over the same time period it's my opinion that Silva has won his fights against top level competition in more impressive fashion.

I agree.

[BigCatDaddy]

WOW!!! GSP busted for cheating during the fight. Sounds like this could get serious.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/mma...urn=mma,138156

[Katipan]

Totally wish I could blame that on BJ's beat down.

Would still totally dance a jig if they stripped the belt from GSP and gave it to the undeserving Penn.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by Katipan

Totally wish I could blame that on BJ's beat down.

Would still totally dance a jig if they stripped the belt from GSP and gave it to the undeserving Penn.

I doubt anything will come of this but man I hope so. GSP beat the hell out of BJ but I still can't bring myself to like him, maybe it's the accent.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

I doubt anything will come of this but man I hope so. GSP beat the hell out of BJ but I still can't bring myself to like him, maybe it's the accent.

Boxing and MMA both got some nice black eyes recently with Margarito loading up the gloves and not GSP pulling the old Bronco Offensive Lineman crap.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

I doubt anything will come of this but man I hope so. GSP beat the hell out of BJ but I still can't bring myself to like him, maybe it's the accent.

its the surrender monkey blood GSP carries.

[Simplex3]

What the hell were they thinking? There are cameras freaking everywhere. You're not going to get away with this and it was obvious he didn't need the extra help. Kind of sad that people have been complaining about this and nobody has done anything about it.