Bill Simmons on Tom Brady/Matt Cassel

[Hootie]

The Montreal Screw-Job Award for "Most Shocking Turn on a Beloved Figure"

I didn't call my father during the first half of the Baltimore beating. There was nothing to say. When you give up an 83-yard run to start a game against a team you know wants to run 40 times, you kinda know how it's going to turn out. We all knew the 2009 Patriots had a playoff stink bomb in them; just not in Round 1 at home. Anyway, I was too depressed to call him at halftime. After another Brady interception in the third quarter, my cell phone started vibrating. Yup, it was a text from my dad.

"We never should have traded Cassel."

(Ouch.)

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

FYP

wait, steve bono was more talented than steve young? your edit made NO sense there.

Originally Posted by baby lee

the cassel/brady situation reminds me of the young/bono situation, except they gave us the less talented guy this time

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by milkman

No, he only delivered once, against the Patriots in that SB run.

That's it.

so he wasn't any good against the Chiefs in 2003? The Broncos in 2003?

The Broncos in 2004?

Those are a few examples...

Yet I guess we can just overlook those because he lost to superior Patriots teams who were cheating over those years...

No big deal, right?

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by Hootie

at least milkman is intelligent...

I don't have any idea who you are and I certainly have zero interest in anything you have to say...

Until you learn how to type like an adult...I'll continue to show zero interest in any point you try to make.

K

and until you use your brain before posting stupid shit to defend your man crush, noone will take you seriously

[Hootie]

I mean...

Peyton Manning had a perfect QB rating against Denver in 2003 in the playoffs...with 5 TD's...and followed that up by beating the Chiefs in a hostile Arrowhead environment in a game that featured no punts...

But those don't count...he didn't deliver in those games...

We'll just point out his 3 shitty games against the Patriots...a team who lost draft picks, significant ones, for CHEATING over those years...

and we'll turn a blind eye at Tom Brady and his postseason "chokes"...

For every Peyton Manning choke, I can match it with a Tom Brady choke...

Just so you know.

[Hootie]

hey milkman...real quick...can I get your input?

What's my devastating to a team?

A pick 6 in the 1st half of the AFC Championship game?

Or...

An interception in the oppositions territory on a 2nd down when you're down by 4 in the AFC Championship game, last drive of the season, where a TD advances you to the Super Bowl...and a turnover ends your season?

Which one is more devastating to a team?

[Hootie]

hey milkman...real quick...can I get your input?

What's my devastating to a team?

A pick 6 in the 1st half of the AFC Championship game?

Or...

An interception in the oppositions territory on a 2nd down when you're down by 4 in the AFC Championship game, last drive of the season, where a TD advances you to the Super Bowl...and a turnover ends your season?

Which one is more devastating to a team?

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by Hootie

I mean...

Peyton Manning had a perfect QB rating against Denver in 2003 in the playoffs...with 5 TD's...and followed that up by beating the Chiefs in a hostile Arrowhead environment in a game that featured no punts...

But those don't count...he didn't deliver in those games...

We'll just point out his 3 shitty games against the Patriots...a team who lost draft picks, significant ones, for CHEATING over those years...

and we'll turn a blind eye at Tom Brady and his postseason "chokes"...

For every Peyton Manning choke, I can match it with a Tom Brady choke...

Just so you know.

The only thing your are accomplishing here is running up your post count.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DBOSHO

The only thing your are accomplishing here is running up your post count.

so what are you accomplishing?

[Hootie]

the problem with this debate is my posts are FULL of substance...because I have statistics and GAME PROVIDED evidence to back up my claims...

So the debate always hits a brick wall because the Brady backers have nothing to turn to eventually...

Shit milkman played the "Peyton Manning is a pussy in the pocket" card because they TRULY have nothing left and that is what they are down to.

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by Hootie

so what are you accomplishing?

Thought you werent going to acknowledge me? I dont say anything of interest to you, remember.

To answer your question, im managing to not make myself look like a reerun, unlike you.

[Hootie]

well that's rich right there

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by Hootie

so what are you accomplishing?

Thought you werent going to acknowledge me? I dont say anything of interest to you, remember.

To answer your question, im managing to not make myself look like a reerun, unlike you.

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by Hootie

well that's rich right there

You know what else is rich? That response. Because you know noone here respects your opinions, at least on this subject. Just read the threa.

[Christofire]

Brady has to be considered top 10 all time based on Super Bowls and winning percentage alone. His best traits are his accuracy, efficiency and decisionmaking.

I think the 16-0 season and record-setting year has put him contention for top 5, but I feel like he needs at least one or two more epic moments to crack the top 3.
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[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by DBOSHO

once again, if tom couldnt touch peyton that year, why couldnt he get to the superbowl. Peyton can put the whole team on his back, remember.

So what happened?

So when Manning put up 3 points against New England in the 2004 playoffs was that Manning "choking in the biggest game of his life" like Brady against the Giants? And why was the SB against the Giants the biggest game of his life? He played and won 3 other Super Bowls. They were pretty big too.
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