What is wrong with Mahomes' deep ball?

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Looks like the bulk of the issue with pressure in this one was Thuney getting his ass absolutely rocked by Garrett. There were a couple of interior fails with Caliendo (to be expected with a first start) and then on the whole with blitz pickup communication. Overall, they looked solid as a whole when Garrett was out, not so much when he was in. One-man wrecking crew. Humphries is the golden ticket to keeping the pressure to tolerable.

Thuney started off really well then as the game went on Garrett was just blowing up the pocket. That dude is an absolute freak.

So it's really just that left side over and over and over. But that one position has basically crippled the offense all year.

So yeah we need to go out this season and spend whatever it takes to get a GOOD left tackle. Not draft someone else and hope we can coach them up because that formula has failed this front office over and over and over for that position.

[Bearcat]

A few of those early plays just look brutal from that perspective... at :11 and the play after that, three Chiefs all moving in the same direction with like 6+ Browns around.

And then you get into the scoring drive, and holy shit, use some misdirection and don't have half the team going to the same spot on the field, and there's actually some space out there.

[Megatron96]

Wonder how much of Pat's issues have to do with his ankle injury? Just watching that tape, he almost never steps into his deep throws, he steps out.


Overall, I feel like his clock is sped up. A couple times he seems to try and slow it down, but then he gets bumped or hit while trying to throw, and then on the next snap his clock is sped up again.

And I don't care what the analytics say, the OL play isn't good. Pat regularly has IOL walked back into him, the OTs are regularly giving up the inside or the outside; there's just not a lot of time on a lot of those snaps for Pat to get through even 2 reads. And several times he gets bumped as he's throwing, or he pulls it down because he gets bumped and then he's late.

And then you have the reps where it looks like he's predetermined where he's going with the ball, like that deep shot to JWat. Now, the tight doesn't really show what's happening outside the numbers, so we can't really see what else was available there, but it looks pretty obvious that JWat just isn't open, but Pat lets it fly anyway. And it's not a very good throw either. Or it's not a well-run route. Either way, I can't see how that was a good idea.


And the deep ball to DHop #3:10. That ball is short to the inside, but the DB is on the inside. That ball needed to be on the outside and leading DHop. But Pat gets pressure in his face so he can't step into the pass, and it ends up being short and inside. It was kind of amazing that Hopkins got his hands on it at all.

[FloridaMan88]

It would really help if the Chiefs had more explosive players who could break away for big passing plays, that were not initiated by big passes, in terms of air yardage.

Thinking about a play like Turpin provided for Dallas a few weeks ago vs Texans… it was just a 15 yard crossing pattern that he turned up field and housed for a 64 yard TD.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

It would really help if the Chiefs had more explosive players who could break away for big passing plays, that were not initiated by big passes, in terms of air yardage.

Thinking about a play like Turpin provided for Dallas a few weeks ago vs Texans… it was just a 15 yard crossing pattern that he turned up field and housed for a 64 yard TD.

Like Rashee Rice and Hollywood Brown?

We are getting one of them back this week

[BigRedChief]

Here is Mahomes throwing to Watson in double coverage. But, Worthy is wide open and could have took it down into the red zone easily.

[Megatron96]

Some of those reps must be from last season. Per PFR, Hill has only one drop for the season.

[-King-]

He missed a few but the passes to Watson and the one to Worthy in the end zone were good deep passes even if they didn't end up completions

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by -King-

He missed a few but the passes to Watson and the one to Worthy in the end zone were good deep passes even if they didn't end up completions

Agreed. He looked sharp today. Worthy’s was a difficult catch but Watson showed he simply shouldn’t be trusted with routes like that anymore. He has to bring that in.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

When Mahomes' two tackles give him a chance to look downfield, turns out his deep ball isn't so bad after all...

Mahomes going deeeeeeep ��#KCvsPIT on @Netflix pic.twitter.com/MiinpIPVoB

— NFL (@NFL) December 25, 2024

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

When Mahomes' two tackles give him a chance to look downfield, turns out his deep ball isn't so bad after all...

Mahomes going deeeeeeep ��#KCvsPIT on @Netflix pic.twitter.com/MiinpIPVoB

— NFL (@NFL) December 25, 2024

YES. God it was great to see that again.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Nice blitz pickup by Kelce too.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by TLO

I was in the camp most of the season in saying that these guys are going to get on the same page, and eventually the deep shots will start hitting.



After today, I'm not sure this is the case.



Is this an offensive line issue? Just not enough time for Mahomes to set and fire an accurate deep ball?



Is it an WR issue? We have 1 burner in Worthy, but the rest of our receivers are slow.



Is it a Mahomes issue?



Someone smarter than me tell me what's going on.

The O-line's the issue..

[BigCatDaddy]

His balls went deep very good.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

OL + Mahomes being able to step up and he also threw it on time and not a second late which probably could be attributed to him feeling confident in his line and keeping his eyes UP, not worried about the rush.

I’m telling you there’s zero chance I’m rocking the boat with the offensive line, IDC how unconventional it is, to do what we’ve done against some of the NFL’s top 5 pass rushing teams…. It’s impressive.