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Old 03-28-2007, 09:31 AM  
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Time to trade Jared Allen...
With the latest news from his agent, it's time to shop the guy hard to Atlanta to see if we can get the Schaub picks.

Anybody agree?
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:59 PM   #181
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Hes one of the best young players in the league..he might need reined-in a little ..but doesn't need to be traded .....
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:03 PM   #182
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I do think Jared Allen is getting bad advice from his agent.

What he needs to do is to get in this year, work his ass off like a good team player, and have his best year in the NFL. He would then be in a great position to score a huge contract, far better than this year with his DUI's hanging over his head.
This is excellent advice, but I doubt he understands it. The urge to want money now is huge especially when you are age.
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:36 PM   #183
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Allen needs to dry out and get real. The momentum of more-than-a-hand-slap discipline is building. He will be the lone soldier yelling that tank to halt when it's running over him.
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:38 PM   #184
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This is excellent advice, but I doubt he understands it. The urge to want money now is huge especially when you are age.
He wants to get paid. He doesn't seem to understand he doesn't deserve to be. But apparently he sees a way to get paid, and is taking it. Of course he pisses that away too with a third DUI, and then NO ONE will want him. The Chiefs would gladly fork over a long-term deal next offseason if he kept his act clean and posted decent numbers, but he has to be a ****ing jerk about it and act like the Chiefs have somehow wronged him.
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Old 03-30-2007, 01:22 AM   #185
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His latest comments sure seem to be FILLED with the humility a recovering alchoholic inevitably learns...
Which comments would that be? The ones relayed by his amature agent, or the ones we actually heard come out of his mouth? The interview I heard Carlotta69 do, came accross as humble, to me.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:01 AM   #186
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Hes one of the best young players in the league..he might need reined-in a little ..but doesn't need to be traded .....
UHHHHHHHHH maybe but I don't think so. Doesn't sound like he's grown up at all. Nor making better decisions than this one.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:36 AM   #187
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You are completely 100% full of it. Carlota interviewed him and he said he hasn't had a drink in 5-6 months. Do you have proof to the contrary? Any photos of him this offseason boozing it up?


I specifically stated I was talking about his MULTIPLE CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS. I didn't mention his drinking at all.

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Spin it any way you want, Allen doesn't view the DUI convictions as a big deal and they absolutely ARE.
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When the subject of the effect of Allen's 4 game suspension was brought up, the guy allegedly said that it wasn't a big deal because it wouldn't cost the Chiefs any money since they would not have to pay him.
Jared and his agent obviously do not understand that his convictions and the associated suspensions ARE detrimental to the team.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:37 AM   #188
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Which comments would that be? The ones relayed by his amature agent, or the ones we actually heard come out of his mouth? The interview I heard Carlotta69 do, came accross as humble, to me.
So now his agent is an amateur? This is getting good.

What do you expect Jared Allen to say publically at this point?

His handling of the current contract situation is the anti-thesis of humility.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:40 AM   #189
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Of course, none of this suspension and conviction stuff matters now anyway.

Allen's agent is adamant that they will not negotiate a long-term contract with KC going forward.

The situation appears to be irreparable.

Trade him now.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:47 AM   #190
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So now his agent is an amateur? This is getting good.

What do you expect Jared Allen to say publically at this point?

His handling of the current contract situation is the anti-thesis of humility.
Do you disagree with his agent being new at this? If so, school me, I am here to learn.

I am inspired by your recognition of the word humility.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:50 AM   #191
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UHHHHHHHHH maybe but I don't think so. Doesn't sound like he's grown up at all. Nor making better decisions than this one.
BRC, Jared doesn't look like an athlete in that picture. I remember seeing it once before. Can you fill me in on the details.

It looks very much like something I might have done at his age.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:59 AM   #192
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Of course, none of this suspension and conviction stuff matters now anyway.

Allen's agent is adamant that they will not negotiate a long-term contract with KC going forward.

The situation appears to be irreparable.

Trade him now.
Isn't that what Tony G and his agent said as well? Money heals all in the NFL.

Humility has nothing to do with this situation. Allen is ready to enter the big payday and big contract of his career. And please don't tell me that remaining clean and sober for the 2007 season is going to change anything. Carl will still hold the previous convictions over him and try to low ball him - as that is what the GM's job is to do; without making the situation so untenable that the player's agent declares he is refusing further talks.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:59 AM   #193
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It looks very much like something I might have done at his age.
That's what I was referring to yesterday when I mentioned the idea that a lot of fans love him for his personality. Hard-drinking good-'ol boy. That's great if you're looking for somebody to hang out with.

Not exactly the qualities you're looking for in someone you plan to committ millions of dollars to over the course of several years.

As was said a few posts back, he needs to keep his nose clean and have an amazing 12 games on the field this year when his suspension's over. Earn the big contract next offseason, and get rid of the red flags.

That would be the smart way to approch this.
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:18 AM   #194
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Do you disagree with his agent being new at this? If so, school me, I am here to learn.

I am inspired by your recognition of the word humility.
hu·mil·i·ty /hyuˈmɪlɪti or, often, yu-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hyoo-mil-i-tee or, often, yoo-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun the quality or condition of being humble; modest opinion or estimate of one's own importance, rank, etc.
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:20 AM   #195
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Isn't that what Tony G and his agent said as well? Money heals all in the NFL.

Humility has nothing to do with this situation. Allen is ready to enter the big payday and big contract of his career. And please don't tell me that remaining clean and sober for the 2007 season is going to change anything. Carl will still hold the previous convictions over him and try to low ball him - as that is what the GM's job is to do; without making the situation so untenable that the player's agent declares he is refusing further talks.
No he is not.

NEXT YEAR is the year of his big payday, not this year. He is a restricted free agent for a reason - because he was a FOURTH ROUND to whom the Chiefs gave a chance.

And if Carl doesn't hold those previous convictions over Allen's head, he's NOT DOING HIS JOB.

Staying clean and sober for any amount of time does not EVER change the fact that if Allen gets caught for something as simple as shoplifting in the future, he's out for a year.
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