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Old 09-29-2009, 12:10 PM   #1
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Old 09-29-2009, 06:39 AM   #2
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If Sanchez should fail in NY, even because of a freak injury. QBs will avoid the Jets like Crabtrees avoid 49ers.
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:21 PM   #3
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Old 10-03-2009, 10:15 PM   #4
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:32 PM   #5
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I can't believe people think Sanchez would look half as good behind our line. It's ludicrous.
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:36 PM   #6
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I can't believe people think Sanchez would look half as good behind our line. It's ludicrous.
No one thinks pretty much any QB would play well behind our embarrassingly bad line.

But what others, like myself, believe is that Sanchez is the superior QB to Cassel. And if a team can acquire an elite talent at the QB position, you do it. Build the line later.

The line doesn't have to come first. Just ask the Colts. And before someone spouts off, no, I'm not saying Sanchez is P. Manning, just that the Dirty Dirty is going to be a hell of a lot better player than Cassel.
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:42 PM   #7
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No one thinks pretty much any QB would play well behind our embarrassingly bad line.

But what others, like myself, believe is that Sanchez is the superior QB to Cassel. And if a team can acquire an elite talent at the QB position, you do it. Build the line later.

The line doesn't have to come first. Just ask the Colts. And before someone spouts off, no, I'm not saying Sanchez is P. Manning, just that the Dirty Dirty is going to be a hell of a lot better player than Cassel.
I don't know how anyone can know that.

I think Sanchez will be better, but I think once you give Cassel at least something to work with, it won't be by a whole lot.

I just don't understand the double standard that the same people who are suggesting that Sanchez is winning games because of his ability are the same ones who insist that Cassel only won games because of his supporting cast. Cassel last year, like Sanchez this year, won games because he wasn't ask to do everything by himself. I don't understand why Sanchez just "knows how to win" while Cassel only won because of his supporting cast.
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:46 PM   #8
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I don't know how anyone can know that.

I think Sanchez will be better, but I think once you give Cassel at least something to work with, it won't be by a whole lot.

I just don't understand the double standard that the same people who are suggesting that Sanchez is winning games because of his ability are the same ones who insist that Cassel only won games because of his supporting cast. Cassel last year, like Sanchez this year, won games because he wasn't ask to do everything by himself. I don't understand why Sanchez just "knows how to win" while Cassel only won because of his supporting cast.
It's going to be by a considerable margin, IMO.

I don't think Cassel is as accurate and there are real questions about his ability to play from under center.

I think Cassel is a QB whom a team can definitely win with, but he'll never get into the "elite" category.
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Old 10-03-2009, 08:04 PM   #9
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It's going to be by a considerable margin, IMO.

I don't think Cassel is as accurate and there are real questions about his ability to play from under center.

I think Cassel is a QB whom a team can definitely win with, but he'll never get into the "elite" category.
His accuracy is fine. It's just his long-range accuracy that needs work.

I don't know when playing under center become such a big "make or break" criteria. There aren't questions about his ability to play under center like there were for Thigpen. Cassel's done fine playing under center and he's taken several snaps under center this year. His footwork is fine. Everything is fine. He just needs more reps. It just so happens that his protection wasn't nearly as good as people thought--even Brady is struggling to get protection this year out of NE's line.

The only thing that I think he needs major work with is getting rid of the ball quicker, but that's something he improved on markedly over time in New England. And given how quickly he was hit, it was pretty remarkable that he was able to get off as many passes as he did in Philly.

I haven't seen anything that suggests that Cassel can't be a top-tier QB with time and a better supporting cast.
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:37 PM   #10
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Didn't everyone pick the Jets to be a last place team that won like 4 or 5 games?
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:43 PM   #11
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Didn't everyone pick the Jets to be a last place team that won like 4 or 5 games?
They're definitely a surprise. But nobody expected that defense to be as dominant as they've been either. Rex Ryan hasn't just been rookie coach of the year, so far he's arguably been coach of the year... period.
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:41 PM   #12
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Sanchez is doing good there is no doubt. Perhaps a better comparison of Cassel and Sanchez is what Cassel did last year behind New Englands O line to what Sanchez is doing behind the Jets O line.

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