How will you react if the NBA cancels its season?

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's wrong.

Go ahead and try to put the 'fundamentally sound' Princeton Tigers in an offense as relatively braindead as Mike Brown's - they'd trip over their own feet. NBA offenses (and defenses) for that matter are miles ahead of the stuff they use in college.

The fundamentals in the NBA are actually exceptional. The passing is off the charts good, but the length of defenders is so incredible that they still tip some of them away. It's not a bad pass, it's just that they're playing on a court that was designed at a time when 6'6'' was a damn behemoth and now it's a shooting guard.

There's simply not a lot of room on an NBA court anymore. These guys are freakin' huge and they're fast. To be able to get a pass into the interior all is pretty impressive and it generally comes off some pretty nifty screens or exterior passing before the entry pass is even possible. These guys are able to control their dribble while they're getting mugged coming through the lane, they can switch hands in the air to finish and their court vision is remarkable.

An earlier post was right - you need to see a game in person to realize just how hard that game is. From up high it looks like there's plenty of space and it looks pretty easy. Get down courtside and listen to it. It's violent (like punching a side of beef), its crowded and its chaotic. The fact that these guys can even see across the court given the fact that they're throwing over guys with 8-9 ft wingspans is pretty incredible. What they're able to do in the passing game alone is amazing when seen at the level these guys actually play at.

Then to watch them receive a pass in a triple threat position, execute a great jab step and go straight up for a 15 footer (only to still be contested on a play that would've had a college defender falling on his ass) and sink it is just a thing of beauty. 80% of the plays in the NBA are built around the fundamentals; passing, screens, positioning and shooting technique. Sometimes the D blows your play up and an iso is necessary, but it's almost always a losing proposition anymore because these guys are just too athletic on defense.

The 'streetball' talk is just wrong. Oh there's probably an element of latent racism to it, but mostly it's just wildly uninformed. The fundamentals in the NBA are stronger than they've ever been. The quality of play is higher than its ever been. It took me a very long time to come back around on the league after the Riley-era Knicks/Heat drove it into the abyss. I damn near left again after the 2005 Finals where the officials gave Dwayne Wade a championship. But there's just no question that the league right now is absolutely incredible.

If you don't want to watch - don't. But I get really tired of people that clearly don't understand the intricacies of the game trying to speak to how awful it is.

Wow. If I cared about the NBA I might read this novella.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Wow. If I cared about the NBA I might read this novella.

So you dont care about watching great athletes play at the top of their game. Got it.

[KevB]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If you don't want to watch - don't. But I get really tired of people that clearly don't understand the intricacies of the game trying to speak to how awful it is.

Preach.

I sat courtside (LOOK AT ME!) last season for the first time at a Grizzlies/Warriors game. I've been around and played with some really good players, but it is startling how big and fast these guys are up close. One of the things that really struck me is there is almost never a truly open shot from the perimeter. Guys are so long and close so fast, by the time the shooter lines up his shot, there's a hand on his wrist every time. I remember Dorrell Wright warming up, and he actually had a coach there tapping his shooting wrist on every single shot to get used to getting hit on his release. Didn't phase him, made nearly every one.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by KevB

Preach.

I sat courtside (LOOK AT ME!) last season for the first time at a Grizzlies/Warriors game. I've been around and played with some really good players, but it is startling how big and fast these guys are up close. One of the things that really struck me is there is almost never a truly open shot from the perimeter. Guys are so long and close so fast, by the time the shooter lines up his shot, there's a hand on his wrist every time. I remember Dorrell Wright warming up, and he actually had a coach there tapping his shooting wrist on every single shot to get used to getting hit on his release. Didn't phase him, made nearly every one.

Did you just say "preach"?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KevB

Preach.

I sat courtside (LOOK AT ME!) last season for the first time at a Grizzlies/Warriors game. I've been around and played with some really good players, but it is startling how big and fast these guys are up close. One of the things that really struck me is there is almost never a truly open shot from the perimeter. Guys are so long and close so fast, by the time the shooter lines up his shot, there's a hand on his wrist every time. I remember Dorrell Wright warming up, and he actually had a coach there tapping his shooting wrist on every single shot to get used to getting hit on his release. Didn't phase him, made nearly every one.

Watch warmups if you ever get a chance.

They just don't miss. When they get a chance to set and fire, they simply do not miss. In games they might on occasion because of nerves or tired legs, but when they're just out there shooting around with fresh legs and no defenders, they hit probably 90% of the shots they take.

Then you watch the college kids do it - they aren't even that successful in a layup line.

You don't realize how damn hard that game is until you get a feel for just how freakish the people that play it are.

But whatever - some dumbass that loves watching scrappy walk-ons from Indiana miss open 14 footers says that the NBA doesn't have fundamentals.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's wrong.

Go ahead and try to put the 'fundamentally sound' Princeton Tigers in an offense as relatively braindead as Mike Brown's - they'd trip over their own feet. NBA offenses (and defenses) for that matter are miles ahead of the stuff they use in college.

The fundamentals in the NBA are actually exceptional. The passing is off the charts good, but the length of defenders is so incredible that they still tip some of them away. It's not a bad pass, it's just that they're playing on a court that was designed at a time when 6'6'' was a damn behemoth and now it's a shooting guard.

There's simply not a lot of room on an NBA court anymore. These guys are freakin' huge and they're fast. To be able to get a pass into the interior all is pretty impressive and it generally comes off some pretty nifty screens or exterior passing before the entry pass is even possible. These guys are able to control their dribble while they're getting mugged coming through the lane, they can switch hands in the air to finish and their court vision is remarkable.

An earlier post was right - you need to see a game in person to realize just how hard that game is. From up high it looks like there's plenty of space and it looks pretty easy. Get down courtside and listen to it. It's violent (like punching a side of beef), its crowded and its chaotic. The fact that these guys can even see across the court given the fact that they're throwing over guys with 8-9 ft wingspans is pretty incredible. What they're able to do in the passing game alone is amazing when seen at the level these guys actually play at.

Then to watch them receive a pass in a triple threat position, execute a great jab step and go straight up for a 15 footer (only to still be contested on a play that would've had a college defender falling on his ass) and sink it is just a thing of beauty. 80% of the plays in the NBA are built around the fundamentals; passing, screens, positioning and shooting technique. Sometimes the D blows your play up and an iso is necessary, but it's almost always a losing proposition anymore because these guys are just too athletic on defense.

The 'streetball' talk is just wrong. Oh there's probably an element of latent racism to it, but mostly it's just wildly uninformed. The fundamentals in the NBA are stronger than they've ever been. The quality of play is higher than its ever been. It took me a very long time to come back around on the league after the Riley-era Knicks/Heat drove it into the abyss. I damn near left again after the 2005 Finals where the officials gave Dwayne Wade a championship. But there's just no question that the league right now is absolutely incredible.

If you don't want to watch - don't. But I get really tired of people that clearly don't understand the intricacies of the game trying to speak to how awful it is.

I disagree with you about the strong fundamentals. Compare the fundamentals of say Argentina vs the USA when they play in the Olympics.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

I disagree with you about the strong fundamentals. Compare the fundamentals of say Argentina vs the USA when they play in the Olympics.

Compare the talent level.
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[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

I disagree with you about the strong fundamentals. Compare the fundamentals of say Argentina vs the USA when they play in the Olympics.

A) You disagreeing with me is generally a feather in my cap.
B) The fact that you're referring to games where one team literally plays together for about 2 weeks before facing its opponent whereas the opponent has generally been practicing together for months speaks volumes.

The 2008 USA Basketball team was the first in over a decade that was actually picked for chemistry and told that they had to commit to playing/practicing together prior to the Olympics. They destroyed everyone. They outplayed everyone in every facet of the game, in fact.

Oh, and nevermind the fact that the best of those 'fundamentally sound' Euros actually play in the NBA. The only team to give the USA any kind of fight was Spain, and that was primarily because Pau Gasol is probably the most fundamentally sound big-man in the league. In fact, the 5 best players from that team are all in the NBA. Go ahead and compare that squad to Argentina if you'd like because Argentina got rolled by the US. The US was leading like 22-2 after the first few minutes and coasted from there.

This nebulous 'fundamentals' argument simply doesn't carry any weight. There are a handful of players that play lousy fundamental games; guys like Iverson and Marbury are the first names to pop up. The problem is that they tended to get their asses kicked a lot or play for bad teams. More importantly - they don't play anymore.

[Gary]

[Pushead2]

who gives a flying ****

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by Pushead2

who gives a flying ****

GO DUCKS!

[HC_Chief]

What's this "NBA" thing you speak of?

[BWillie]

I'm not happy at all. The NBA is a great product. Some really intriguing teams and matchups and the Thunder were set up to have a great year. Add that w/ the hoopla in Miami and Kobe trying to get his 7th ring, that is something I want to watch.

[loochy]

YOU CARE! ALL OF YOU CARE!

[L.A. Chieffan]

frazzy can eat a dick too. help him out with that.