NFL Rumors: Mahomes, Watson atop KC's QB wish list

[Urc Burry]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Sure he can sit behind a protected pocket and launch a ball like his rocket-arm baseball daddy taught him to but you have to question why a quarterback needs to be flexing his muscles when his team struggled all year and finished 5-7??

The worst defense in football giving up 46 points a game probably didn't have anything to do with their record.


His arm talent has been compared to Favre. I've learned to trust Dorsey. If he thinks Mahomes is the guy then I'm all in

[Nickhead]

if the chiefs are drafting a qb in round 1 or 2 NEXT year, this means alex will have an extension on his contract. they HAVE to find the next kc qb this year. no one can say if these qb's in the draft are a bust or not. only until they get into the film rooms, and the field can one make that assertion.

if a 2017 pick is a bust, THEN you go after a replacement for alex via free agency. i assume by that point cousins will be available for 45 million a year

[RunKC]

Dak had horrible footwork, accuracy issues and came from a spread offense. He's not much different than the prospects this year.
Talent is there for a QB to succeed and multiple QB's in this draft could do well in the system.

We just won 12 games in spite of a QB not throwing TD's. A rookie could be essentially the same exact copy of Alex but far cheaper....just like Semen did in Denver.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Dak had horrible footwork, accuracy issues and came from a spread offense. He's not much different than the prospects this year.

Not really true. Dak might have fit this description prior to his senior season, but he showed impressive strides in 2015. He was much more polished, accurate, and coverage aware as a senior prospect.

[Bowser]

Honestly, any of these QB's not named Trubisky are going to need a minimum of one season on the bench before they're ready, most likely (and that might even go for Trubisky, too). Mahomes apparently has all the intangibles coaches look for in a QB, so take him if he's there, let him learn how to QB under Alex and Andy, and see what you have a year from now. That goes for Watson and Kizer, as well.

[PHOG]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Honestly, any of these QB's not named Trubisky are going to need a minimum of one season on the bench before they're ready, most likely (and that might even go for Trubisky, too). Mahomes apparently has all the intangibles coaches look for in a QB, so take him if he's there, let him learn how to QB under Alex and Andy, and see what you have a year from now. That goes for Watson and Kizer, as well.

No, do not let him learn from Alex, please.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by PHOG

No, do not let him learn from Alex, please.

That's dumb. No reason to not let a young QB learn from Alex.

If you want to worry about something then worry about a young QB only knowing our current offense. When Nick Foles entered the game, Reid didn't open the offense up. He ran the same dink/dunk offense that everyone around here claims only to happens because Alex Smith is our quarterback.

If Alex Smith is the only problem with our offense then why didn't that change when Nick Foles started?

Alex Smith is a smart guy who is also a team guy, he will a great QB for a young guy to learn from.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

That's dumb. No reason to not let a young QB learn from Alex.

If you want to worry about something then worry about a young QB only knowing our current offense. When Nick Foles entered the game, Reid didn't open the offense up. He ran the same dink/dunk offense that everyone around here claims only to happens because Alex Smith is our quarterback.

If Alex Smith is the only problem with our offense then why didn't that change when Nick Foles started?

Alex Smith is a smart guy who is also a team guy, he will a great QB for a young guy to learn from.

Trent Green said it best.

The team had just drafted Brodie Croyle. The media wanted to know Trent's thoughts. Trent loved KC and the fans, and he was the true leader of the team in the locker room. Surely this selfless guy who wants what's best for the team would be willing to work with the young kid on stuff, right? The media was itching to write its first fan fodder story with some nice quotes from Trent Green.

Know what they basically got in so many words? "**** the kid. If he wants to play in the NFL, he needs to ****ing figure it out. We've got a coaching staff. They'll help him. That's their job. It's not my ****ing job. My job is to play football."

It's not Alex's job to teach the rookie. Something tells me he probably won't make teaching a rookie a priority. If Mahomes or Watson or whoever it is sits next to him on the bench and asks what to do in this situation, Alex can tell him what he did, but he's not required to hold his goddamn hand or quiz him in practice. He doesn't even have to hang out with the guy or like him.

It's a giant myth that veteran QBs teach the young guys who are supposed to replace them eventually on the team, and when they do, just because they're great QBs doesn't make them great teachers.

All that Peyton Manning dick in Brock Assweiler's mouth sure did Brock a ton of good, didn't it? Or Jim Sorgi or Curtis Painter. Boy, those guys looked sharp and wise from all that Manning tutelage, didn't they? And all those Tom Brady backups that have been successful for other teams. They learned by watching and talking with Tom, and now they're doing sooooo well, aren't they?

It's pretty well-known that Brett Favre hated Rodgers' guts, even if he wasn't a total dick to the guy. He didn't exactly "take the guy under his wing." Guess who did? The ****ing coaching staff did.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Trent Green said it best.

The team had just drafted Brodie Croyle. The media wanted to know Trent's thoughts. Trent loved KC and the fans, and he was the true leader of the team in the locker room. Surely this selfless guy who wants what's best for the team would be willing to work with the young kid on stuff, right? The media was itching to write its first fan fodder story with some nice quotes from Trent Green.

Know what they basically got in so many words? "**** the kid. If he wants to play in the NFL, he needs to ****ing figure it out. We've got a coaching staff. They'll help him. That's their job. It's not my ****ing job. My job is to play football."

It's not Alex's job to teach the rookie. Something tells me he probably won't make teaching a rookie a priority. If Mahomes or Watson or whoever it is sits next to him on the bench and asks what to do in this situation, Alex can tell him what he did, but he's not required to hold his goddamn hand or quiz him in practice. He doesn't even have to hang out with the guy or like him.

It's a giant myth that veteran QBs teach the young guys who are supposed to replace them eventually on the team, and when they do, just because they're great QBs doesn't make them great teachers.

All that Peyton Manning dick in Brock Assweiler's mouth sure did Brock a ton of good, didn't it? Or Jim Sorgi or Curtis Painter. Boy, those guys looked sharp and wise from all that Manning tutelage, didn't they? And all those Tom Brady backups that have been successful for other teams. They learned by watching and talking with Tom, and now they're doing sooooo well, aren't they?

It's pretty well-known that Brett Favre hated Rodgers' guts, even if he wasn't a total dick to the guy. He didn't exactly "take the guy under his wing." Guess who did? The ****ing coaching staff did.

Those are the vets that teams bring in after the young guy is the starter. Something like Hasselback and Luck situation.

[LiL stumppy]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Trent Green said it best.

The team had just drafted Brodie Croyle. The media wanted to know Trent's thoughts. Trent loved KC and the fans, and he was the true leader of the team in the locker room. Surely this selfless guy who wants what's best for the team would be willing to work with the young kid on stuff, right? The media was itching to write its first fan fodder story with some nice quotes from Trent Green.

Know what they basically got in so many words? "**** the kid. If he wants to play in the NFL, he needs to ****ing figure it out. We've got a coaching staff. They'll help him. That's their job. It's not my ****ing job. My job is to play football."

It's not Alex's job to teach the rookie. Something tells me he probably won't make teaching a rookie a priority. If Mahomes or Watson or whoever it is sits next to him on the bench and asks what to do in this situation, Alex can tell him what he did, but he's not required to hold his goddamn hand or quiz him in practice. He doesn't even have to hang out with the guy or like him.

It's a giant myth that veteran QBs teach the young guys who are supposed to replace them eventually on the team, and when they do, just because they're great QBs doesn't make them great teachers.

All that Peyton Manning dick in Brock Assweiler's mouth sure did Brock a ton of good, didn't it? Or Jim Sorgi or Curtis Painter. Boy, those guys looked sharp and wise from all that Manning tutelage, didn't they? And all those Tom Brady backups that have been successful for other teams. They learned by watching and talking with Tom, and now they're doing sooooo well, aren't they?

It's pretty well-known that Brett Favre hated Rodgers' guts, even if he wasn't a total dick to the guy. He didn't exactly "take the guy under his wing." Guess who did? The ****ing coaching staff did.

You're looking at it wrong. Of course it's the coaching staffs job to develop and train a young player. In regards to learning from a vet, no one is expecting them to try and teach the kid to throw a football, they're expecting him to teach him through his actions. Alex is a locker room guy, he's a study guy, he's a true student of the game. You draft a QB and let him watch Alex Smith, how he prepares for games, how great his work ethic is, how much he watches game film, etc. That's how young QBs learn from great veterans. Every guy drafted to an NFL can throw a football.

But does every rookie drafted know how to truly be a professional to increase his chance of success? No. That's what veterans are for and rookies sitting behind one for s year.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

That's dumb. No reason to not let a young QB learn from Alex.

If you want to worry about something then worry about a young QB only knowing our current offense. When Nick Foles entered the game, Reid didn't open the offense up. He ran the same dink/dunk offense that everyone around here claims only to happens because Alex Smith is our quarterback.

If Alex Smith is the only problem with our offense then why didn't that change when Nick Foles started?

Alex Smith is a smart guy who is also a team guy, he will a great QB for a young guy to learn from.

Stop confusing safe for smart.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by milkman

Stop confusing safe for smart.

Stop confusing Football instincts with Intelligence level

From everything I've heard, Alex Smith is very intelligent. That he can learn an offense just about as fast as a coach can explain it. That he understands the game and the processes.

The stuff like field vision and throwing accuracy is not something anyone can teach anyway.

Alex Smith will be a great example of how to be a Pro Football player. He will teach where he can and help the kid learn the offense and how to handle the pros. He won't be hostile and tell a rookie QB to "**** off" or try to prevent a new QB from developing to keep his job.

Whether the young QB has natural football instincts and on-the-field talents are completely up to him.

Stuff like footwork and mechanics will be handled by the position coach.

[rico]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Honestly, any of these QB's not named Trubisky are going to need a minimum of one season on the bench before they're ready, most likely (and that might even go for Trubisky, too). Mahomes apparently has all the intangibles coaches look for in a QB, so take him if he's there, let him learn how to QB under Alex and Andy, and see what you have a year from now. That goes for Watson and Kizer, as well.

Trubisky doesn't even have much college experience...he's probably a candidate to sit, IMO.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Honestly, any of these QB's not named Trubisky are going to need a minimum of one season on the bench before they're ready, most likely (and that might even go for Trubisky, too). Mahomes apparently has all the intangibles coaches look for in a QB, so take him if he's there, let him learn how to QB under Alex and Andy, and see what you have a year from now. That goes for Watson and Kizer, as well.

Trubisky only started 12 games in college.

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Trubisky only started 12 games in college.

you should look at tom brady's college stats