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Tag Darnold and give him big contract 12 8.89%
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Give Darnold big contract and tag someone else 12 8.89%
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Old 12-29-2024, 08:13 PM  
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What do you do in the offseason if you are the Vikings?

Sam Darnold has completely turned his career around in Minnesota. Yes, the Vikings have one of the best receiving corps and a good TE. But it's not like you could just plug in any QB and it will be great.

Sam Darnold signed a 1 year deal worth $10m is what google says. So he will be a free agent.

Should they use the franchise tag on him and try to trade him for a 1st? Or sign him to a contract and make him their starter since he played so well?

What to do with JJ McCarthy, if they go with Sam Darnold, since they drafted him so high? Sam Darnold wouldn't be in this position if it weren't for that injury.

It's a somewhat unusual situation and it's a Chiefs-less weekend so if you are the GM of the Vikings, what do you do?
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Old 01-14-2025, 03:32 PM   #196
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Old 01-14-2025, 03:34 PM   #197
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Old 01-14-2025, 03:35 PM   #198
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Old 01-14-2025, 03:50 PM   #199
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Old 01-14-2025, 03:54 PM   #200
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You gotta tag and trade Darnold at this point.
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Old 01-14-2025, 04:39 PM   #201
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You gotta tag and trade Darnold at this point.
They can't really tag him. They don't have any middle-round draft picks. They need to be active in free agency and they won't be able to do that with a near $40M "on hold" for Darnold.
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Old 01-14-2025, 05:33 PM   #202
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Biggest thing Darnold has going for him is that this coming draft is extremely weak at QB and he’s by far the best option at QB in FA.

A team like the Colts should absolutely offer Darnold a contract kinda like what Baker Mayfield got. Anthony Richardson is a horrific QB and Joe Flacco turns 40 in 2 days.

It’s also possible Darnold goes to the Giants for the same reasons.

The coach/GM of both these franchises knows the QB’s in this draft suck and are on thin ice. They need to win now.

He’ll have a market
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Old 01-14-2025, 05:37 PM   #203
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I don't think you can risk tagging him now. Unless you're willing to keep him (and by virtue of his contract, likely start him).

Because ultimately I think he'd probably get nearer $25 million on the open market, if that. So if you tag him, you're starting $15 million or so underwater on his market value.

Now maybe some team wants him as a short term stop gap but they aren't giving up a 2nd for that.

You might get a 3rd for him at this point with that tag attached. In the meantime, you have a massive cap hold as FA opens. Additionally, you have the risk that NOBODY wants him at that figure and you're stuck with that cap hit.

He was just too damn bad the last two weeks and in a way that's easily replicable. One game of inaccuracy is one thing. Consecutive playoff style games where the same thing absolutely destroyed him twice in a row and that thing isn't difficult to duplicate...that's just a disaster.

I don't think you tag him at this point. Let him walk, hope he signs a deal that nets you a comp pick at some point.

These last two weeks just couldn't have gone any worse for the Vikings.
Yeah you are probably right as no team is going to give up high draft picks for him after his last 2 games. So let him go and test the market. I bet there is a stupid team out there ready to pay him like they are going to do for Cousins.
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Old 01-14-2025, 05:47 PM   #204
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Some of you guys are living in 1987 or something. This league is desperate for QBs and someone is going to pay him without hesitation. Might not be the Vikings, but the dude just won 14 games and threw for 4,400 yards and 35 TD, and has the pedigree of a top 5 pick.

He’s getting money.
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Some of you guys are living in 1987 or something. This league is desperate for QBs and someone is going to pay him without hesitation. Might not be the Vikings, but the dude just won 14 games and threw for 4,400 yards and 35 TD, and has the pedigree of a top 5 pick.

He’s getting money.
Yep. Too many needy teams. He will be in demand.
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No one's giving Darnold $40M/yr unless they're just stupid. He may not get Baker's deal.
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No one's giving Darnold $40M/yr unless they're just stupid. He may not get Baker's deal.
I have no idea about the money. But he’s proven he can come in and be a bridge QB and help stabilize a franchise. Ala , Alex Smith it up for a few years.
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I have no idea about the money. But he’s proven he can come in and be a bridge QB and help stabilize a franchise. Ala , Alex Smith it up for a few years.
Can he do that on a team without an offensive coach like O’Connell and without Jefferson and Addison at WR?
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Can he do that on a team without an offensive coach like O’Connell and without Jefferson and Addison at WR?


Exactly. And once they dissect precisely how DET/LAR did what they did to Darnold, if it's easily repeatable, Darnold's stock will drop even further.


And don't get me wrong, I like Sam and his story/resurgence this season. But plainly he can be smothered by the right defensive scheme or whatever.



Though, I also noticed that MIN/KOC basically stopped running fairly early in the game, and that put Darnold on an island. having to do everything himself, which was never going to be a good idea. So, there's also some question about KOC's playcalling IQ.
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Old 01-14-2025, 07:10 PM   #210
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Can he do that on a team without an offensive coach like O’Connell and without Jefferson and Addison at WR?
Most likely not, but that’s not going to stop some poverty franchise from handing him the bag and hoping he’s for real.
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