Football Penn St ex-coach, others charged in child sex case - Page 15

Stewie · 11-05-2011, 12:43 PM

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) — A former defensive coordinator who was integral for decades to Penn State's success in football was accused Saturday of sexually abusing eight boys, and the school's athletic director and an administrator were charged with perjury and failing to report what they knew about the allegations in a case that prosecutor said uncovered a years-long trail of a predator and those who protected him.

Former coach Jerry Sandusky, 67, of State College, was arrested Saturday and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts, the state attorney general's office said. Athletic director Tim Curley, 57, and Penn State vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz, 62, both of Boalsburg, were expected to turn themselves in Monday in Harrisburg. Schultz's position includes oversight of the university's police department.

Longtime head coach Joe Paterno, who has more victories than any coach in the history of Division I football, was not charged, authorities said, and the grand jury report did not appear to implicate him in wrongdoing.

When Paterno first learned of one report of abuse he immediately reported it to Curley, prosecutors said. Sandusky was no longer coaching at the time and it's not clear whether Paterno followed up with Curley.

Closely identified with the school's reputation as a defensive powerhouse and a program that produced top-quality linebackers, Sandusky retired in 1999 but continued to work with at-risk children through the nonprofit Second Mile organization he founded in 1977. He was charged with multiple counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, corruption of minors, endangering the welfare of a child, indecent assault and unlawful contact with a minor, as well as single counts of aggravated indecent assault and attempted indecent assault. A preliminary hearing for Sandusky is scheduled for Wednesday, but his lawyer told reporters it would likely be delayed.

"He's shaky, as you can expect," defense attorney Joe Amendola told WJAC-TV outside the arraignment hearing. "Being 67 years old, never having faced criminal charges in his life, and having the distinguished career that he's had, these are very serious allegations."

Amendola said Sandusky has been aware of the allegations for about three years and has maintained his innocence.

The allegations range from sexual touching to oral and anal sex, and victims testified they were in their early teens when some of the abuse occurred.

Attorney General Linda Kelly called Sandusky "a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys."

The grand jury said eight boys who were targets of sexual advances or assaults by Sandusky from 1994 to 2009. None were named, and in at least one case, the jury said the child's identity remains unknown to authorities.

One accuser, now 27, testified that Sandusky initiated contact with a "soap battle" in the shower that led to multiple instances of involuntary sexual intercourse and indecent assault at Sandusky's hands, the grand jury report said.

Victim 4, as he was identified in the jury report, said he traveled to charity functions and Penn State games with Sandusky, even being listed as a member of Sandusky's family's party for the 1998 Outback Bowl and 1999 Alamo Bowl.

"Sandusky did threaten to send him home from the Alamo Bowl in Texas when Victim 4 resisted his advances," the report said, and Sandusky gave him clothes, shoes, a snowboard, golf clubs, hockey gear and football jerseys.

"Sandusky even guaranteed Victim 4 that he could be a walk-on player at Penn State," and the boy appeared with Sandusky in a photo in Sports Illustrated, the jury said. He testified that Sandusky once gave him $50 to buy marijuana, drove him to purchase it, and then drove him home as the boy smoked the drug, according to the report.

"This was when Victim 4 was trying to distance himself from Sandusky because he wanted no more sexual contact with him," the jurors said.
Another child, Victim 8, as jurors named him, is known only as a boy, about 11 to 13, who was seen pinned against a wall, by a janitor who observed Sandusky performing oral sex on him in fall 2000, the jury said.
No one answered a knock at the door Saturday at Sandusky's modest, two-story brick home at the end of a dead-end road in State College.

As stunning as the charges were the names implicated at a school where the football program is known for its consistency as much as its success — a big change this year was the removal of white trim from players' uniforms.

The report accuses Curley and Schultz of knowing some details of accusations of sex abuse against Sandusky but failing to tell authorities what they knew.

"It is also a case about high-ranking university officials who allegedly failed to report the sexual assault of a young boy after the information was brought to their attention, and later made false statements to a grand jury," Kelly said.

Lawyers for both men issued statements saying they were innocent of all charges.

Prosecutors said all of the young men first encountered Sandusky through Second Mile.

The first to come to light was a boy who met Sandusky when he was 11 or 12, the grand jury said. The boy received expensive gifts and trips to sports events from Sandusky, and physical contact began during his overnight stays at Sandusky's home, jurors said. Eventually, the boy's mother reported the allegations of sexual assault to his high school, and Sandusky was banned from the child's school district in Clinton County in 2009. That triggered the state investigation that culminated in charges Saturday.

The report alleges much earlier instances of abuse, and efforts by some who knew of it to stop it, to no avail.

Kelly said that in 2002, a graduate assistant saw Sandusky sexually assault a naked boy, estimated to be about 10 years old, in the locker room of the Lasch Football Building on campus. The grad student and his father reported what he saw to Paterno, who immediately told Curley, prosecutors said.

Curley and Schultz met with the graduate assistant about a week and a half later, Kelly said. Nothing happened.

"Despite a powerful eyewitness statement about the sexual assault of a child, this incident was not reported to any law enforcement or child protective agency, as required by Pennsylvania law," Kelly said.

There's no indication that anyone at school attempted to find the boy, or follow up with the witness, she said.

Curley denied that the assistant had reported anything of a sexual nature, calling it "merely 'horsing around,'" the 23-page grand jury report said.
But the jury said Curley was lying, Kelly said, adding that it also deemed portions of Schultz's testimony not to be credible.

Curley testified that he barred Sandusky from bringing children onto campus and that he advised Penn State president Graham Spanier of the matter.

Schultz told the jurors he also knew of a 1998 investigation involving sexually inappropriate behavior by Sandusky with a boy in the showers the football team used. But despite his job overseeing campus police, he never reported the 2002 allegations to any authorities, "never sought or received a police report on the 1998 incident and never attempted to learn the identity of the child in the show in 2002," the jurors wrote.

"No one from the university did so."

Spanier released a statement calling the allegations against Sandusky "troubling" and adding Curley and Schultz had his unconditional support.
He predicted they will be exonerated.

"I have known and worked daily with Tim and Gary for more than 16 years," he said. "I have complete confidence in how they handled the allegations about a former university employee."

Sandusky, once considered a potential successor to Paterno, drew up the defenses for the Nittany Lions' national-title teams in 1982 and 1986. The team is enjoying another successful run this season; at 8-1, Penn State is ranked No. 16 in the AP Top 25 and is the last undefeated squad in Big Ten play. The Nittany Lions were off Saturday.

Hootie · 11-07-2011, 08:34 PM

lot of ridiculousness in this thread

no one thinks any of this is ok

but it's amazing that "all of these people knew" and not a single person did a thing about it...

yet everyone in this thread and on this board would have immediately called the police and/or beat the bloody hell out of this FREAK!

A college football player (most likely a stud athlete) was scared into not doing anything...

but OTWP and Saul Good and everyone else would have done the right thing and would have been paraded as heroes!!

excuse me while I call shenanigans

the dude saw what he saw...was clearly horrified...talked to his dad, then went to A GUY HE PROBABLY IDOLIZED...who then took it to the AD who then talked to the president (or whatever) and then they all decided to squash it (or whatever)...but lets blame the G.A.

it's a lot easier to be right when you're not thrust into a situation like this...this dude was a freaking legend in Penn State...

he's obviously powerful enough to have been doing this for 20+ years while releasing books and getting feel good SI stories published about him...

but the voices of ChiefsPlanet would have done the RIGHT thing! Because they have been in a situation like that before...

it's comparable to a witness of some sort of mafia crime flipping their story...

the guy saw something horrible, said something...and then was likely told "you tell anyone and we'll ****ing kill you"...

but I'm sure that wouldn't rattle the badasses of ChiefsPlanet

Hootie · 11-07-2011, 08:38 PM

it's just unbelievable how much better everyone on this site thinks they are than everyone else when these monstrous stories occur...

I'm sure Joe Paterno condones child molestation...

I have a hard time believing all of these successful, high ranking officials stood by and tried to sweep child molestation under the rug...perhaps they were oblivious...in fact, I'm sure they were...but I doubt they really thought this guy was raping child after child.

BryanBusby · 11-07-2011, 08:38 PM

I think most people wouldn't logically think, "welp, the school seems to think child rape is no big deal so I'll just keep doing my thing and allow a sick **** to continue holding overnight programs with youths."

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Originally Posted by The Meat Lover's Pizza Face

it's just unbelievable how much better everyone on this site thinks they are than everyone else when these monstrous stories occur...

I'm sure Joe Paterno condones child molestation...

I have a hard time believing all of these successful, high ranking officials stood by and tried to sweep child molestation under the rug...perhaps they were oblivious...in fact, I'm sure they were...but I doubt they really thought this guy was raping child after child.

If they can't get the clue even though he was accused of it on multiple occasions, they have no business being high ranking officials.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-07-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo

This. Complete argument fail.

Reading fail.

Chiefnj2 · 11-07-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Lover's Pizza Face

lot of ridiculousness in this thread

no one thinks any of this is ok

but it's amazing that "all of these people knew" and not a single person did a thing about it...

says the guy who admits to having sex with passed out females.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-07-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I can understand the argument that you could fear for your job, or life, in situations like this... that certainly doesn't make it right. The thing is though, McQueary still works there. I don't get that. You think you'd want to get out of that mess right away. We'll see I guess, but the whole thing looks really, really bad.

That's the part that I don't get. I don't defend his actions the night it happened, but I can understand his actions. The part I can't defend is why you would associate yourself with pieces of shit like that, especially when they keep letting him get away with it.

Brock · 11-07-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Lover's Pizza Face

the dude saw what he saw...was clearly horrified...talked to his dad, then went to A GUY HE PROBABLY IDOLIZED...who then took it to the AD who then talked to the president (or whatever) and then they all decided to squash it (or whatever)...but lets blame the G.A.t

I don't blame him anymore than I blame the janitor that saw practically the same thing at another time. He was just a dumb kid who didn't know what to do. But if he really did talk to his dad, his dad really is a complete piece of shit if this is how he advised him to handle it.

Chiefnj2 · 11-07-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Lover's Pizza Face

it's just unbelievable how much better everyone on this site thinks they are than everyone else when these monstrous stories occur...

I'm sure Joe Paterno condones child molestation...

I have a hard time believing all of these successful, high ranking officials stood by and tried to sweep child molestation under the rug...perhaps they were oblivious...in fact, I'm sure they were...but I doubt they really thought this guy was raping child after child.

They knew enough to try to protect PSU by banning the guy from bringing children to the facility. They'll ignore it as long as it stays off campus.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-07-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Human nature isn't a defense for human behavior.

Absolutely. I would hope that it haunts him. But again, behavior in a panic is different from behavior when we're thinking rationally. There's a lot of stuff McQueary has done since then that are off. There's no way I'd want to associate myself with scumbags, knowing they're sweeping this under the rug.

Hootie · 11-07-2011, 08:43 PM

what this creep did was truly horrific...

but lets burn him at the stake, not everyone else that has ever worked at Penn State

I knew a kid in high school, a ladies man...girls loved him, was said to be "hung like a horse"...

well a few years ago everyone started saying he was gay...that there was proof he was gay...and all of my friends were like..."wow, I can't believe that dude is gay!"

I, for one, never believed it...I hung out with him all the time back in high school...he nailed some of the hottest girls I've ever seen...and a ton of them, too. Never once did he put off a gay vibe.

Well it turns out he took a girl home and wouldn't **** her...so the girl decided he was gay...well the truth was he just couldn't get hard anymore. Serious ED problems.

But everyone just assumed he was gay instead.

So yeah...I'm sure Joe Paterno just stood by for 30 years while knowing this guy he worked closely with was having sex with 10 year old boys the entire time. I'm sure Paterno figured that would never come back to haunt him in any way!

There is no way in my mind that any of these officials being targeted (IMO as bad as the actual criminal) actually thought this guy was having sex with children. Perhaps they knew he had some inappropriate interactions in the past, but I HIGHLY doubt anyone actually thought he was a sick **** child raper.

I just can't imagine that being true.

Maybe I have too much faith in humanity.

Hootie · 11-07-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

says the guy who admits to having sex with passed out females.

what a myth that is

I'm sorry that I've hooked up with hot girls and a lot of people are jealous on this site...I realize my game is a gift and not everyone knows how to talk to girls.

I'm glad people took a fun "frat" story between an EX-GIRLFRIEND and I and spun it into something ridiculous.

I apologize for the miserable lives most of the members on this board lead.

I do not apologize for being cooler than 95% of you, though. That's a gift that I cherish.

Hootie · 11-07-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

They knew enough to try to protect PSU by banning the guy from bringing children to the facility. They'll ignore it as long as it stays off campus.

I understand child molestation is perhaps THE WORST crime one can commit...

but it was never Joe Paterno's job to catch a predator...

but it's good to know that every single person in the world that has an internet connection is a better person than Joe Paterno...

**Saul Good** · 11-07-2011, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Lover's Pizza Face

it's just unbelievable how much better everyone on this site thinks they are than everyone else when these monstrous stories occur...

I'm sure Joe Paterno condones child molestation...

I have a hard time believing all of these successful, high ranking officials stood by and tried to sweep child molestation under the rug...perhaps they were oblivious...in fact, I'm sure they were...but I doubt they really thought this guy was raping child after child.

I think they chose not to believe it. They were willfully ignorant. As to whether or not everyone on CP would have reported it, that's irrelevant. If I would have been to afraid or whatever to report it, that's on me. It's a shitty character flaw even if it's one that I unknowingly share.

tk13 · 11-07-2011, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Lover's Pizza Face

what this creep did was truly horrific...

but lets burn him at the stake, not everyone else that has ever worked at Penn State

I knew a kid in high school, a ladies man...girls loved him, was said to be "hung like a horse"...

well a few years ago everyone started saying he was gay...that there was proof he was gay...and all of my friends were like..."wow, I can't believe that dude is gay!"

I, for one, never believed it...I hung out with him all the time back in high school...he nailed some of the hottest girls I've ever seen...and a ton of them, too. Never once did he put off a gay vibe.

Well it turns out he took a girl home and wouldn't **** her...so the girl decided he was gay...well the truth was he just couldn't get hard anymore. Serious ED problems.

But everyone just assumed he was gay instead.

So yeah...I'm sure Joe Paterno just stood by for 30 years while knowing this guy he worked closely with was having sex with 10 year old boys the entire time. I'm sure Paterno figured that would never come back to haunt him in any way!

There is no way in my mind that any of these officials being targeted (IMO as bad as the actual criminal) actually thought this guy was having sex with children. Perhaps they knew he had some inappropriate interactions in the past, but I HIGHLY doubt anyone actually thought he was a sick **** child raper.

I just can't imagine that being true.

Maybe I have too much faith in humanity.

If I'm not mistaken, all this information is in the grand jury report, is it not? If so, I don't know what else you can say. You can't possibly compare a bunch of brain dead high school students gossiping to a grand jury.

**Donger** · 11-07-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Lover's Pizza Face

but it was never Joe Paterno's job to catch a predator...

Wow. You have some serious issues, Hootie.

11-05-2011, 12:43 PM
Stewie MVP Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West of the Equator Casino cash: $-1860099	Penn St ex-coach, others charged in child sex case STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) — A former defensive coordinator who was integral for decades to Penn State's success in football was accused Saturday of sexually abusing eight boys, and the school's athletic director and an administrator were charged with perjury and failing to report what they knew about the allegations in a case that prosecutor said uncovered a years-long trail of a predator and those who protected him. Former coach Jerry Sandusky, 67, of State College, was arrested Saturday and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts, the state attorney general's office said. Athletic director Tim Curley, 57, and Penn State vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz, 62, both of Boalsburg, were expected to turn themselves in Monday in Harrisburg. Schultz's position includes oversight of the university's police department. Longtime head coach Joe Paterno, who has more victories than any coach in the history of Division I football, was not charged, authorities said, and the grand jury report did not appear to implicate him in wrongdoing. When Paterno first learned of one report of abuse he immediately reported it to Curley, prosecutors said. Sandusky was no longer coaching at the time and it's not clear whether Paterno followed up with Curley. Closely identified with the school's reputation as a defensive powerhouse and a program that produced top-quality linebackers, Sandusky retired in 1999 but continued to work with at-risk children through the nonprofit Second Mile organization he founded in 1977. He was charged with multiple counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, corruption of minors, endangering the welfare of a child, indecent assault and unlawful contact with a minor, as well as single counts of aggravated indecent assault and attempted indecent assault. A preliminary hearing for Sandusky is scheduled for Wednesday, but his lawyer told reporters it would likely be delayed. "He's shaky, as you can expect," defense attorney Joe Amendola told WJAC-TV outside the arraignment hearing. "Being 67 years old, never having faced criminal charges in his life, and having the distinguished career that he's had, these are very serious allegations." Amendola said Sandusky has been aware of the allegations for about three years and has maintained his innocence. The allegations range from sexual touching to oral and anal sex, and victims testified they were in their early teens when some of the abuse occurred. Attorney General Linda Kelly called Sandusky "a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys." The grand jury said eight boys who were targets of sexual advances or assaults by Sandusky from 1994 to 2009. None were named, and in at least one case, the jury said the child's identity remains unknown to authorities. One accuser, now 27, testified that Sandusky initiated contact with a "soap battle" in the shower that led to multiple instances of involuntary sexual intercourse and indecent assault at Sandusky's hands, the grand jury report said. Victim 4, as he was identified in the jury report, said he traveled to charity functions and Penn State games with Sandusky, even being listed as a member of Sandusky's family's party for the 1998 Outback Bowl and 1999 Alamo Bowl. "Sandusky did threaten to send him home from the Alamo Bowl in Texas when Victim 4 resisted his advances," the report said, and Sandusky gave him clothes, shoes, a snowboard, golf clubs, hockey gear and football jerseys. "Sandusky even guaranteed Victim 4 that he could be a walk-on player at Penn State," and the boy appeared with Sandusky in a photo in Sports Illustrated, the jury said. He testified that Sandusky once gave him $50 to buy marijuana, drove him to purchase it, and then drove him home as the boy smoked the drug, according to the report. "This was when Victim 4 was trying to distance himself from Sandusky because he wanted no more sexual contact with him," the jurors said. Another child, Victim 8, as jurors named him, is known only as a boy, about 11 to 13, who was seen pinned against a wall, by a janitor who observed Sandusky performing oral sex on him in fall 2000, the jury said. No one answered a knock at the door Saturday at Sandusky's modest, two-story brick home at the end of a dead-end road in State College. As stunning as the charges were the names implicated at a school where the football program is known for its consistency as much as its success — a big change this year was the removal of white trim from players' uniforms. The report accuses Curley and Schultz of knowing some details of accusations of sex abuse against Sandusky but failing to tell authorities what they knew. "It is also a case about high-ranking university officials who allegedly failed to report the sexual assault of a young boy after the information was brought to their attention, and later made false statements to a grand jury," Kelly said. Lawyers for both men issued statements saying they were innocent of all charges. Prosecutors said all of the young men first encountered Sandusky through Second Mile. The first to come to light was a boy who met Sandusky when he was 11 or 12, the grand jury said. The boy received expensive gifts and trips to sports events from Sandusky, and physical contact began during his overnight stays at Sandusky's home, jurors said. Eventually, the boy's mother reported the allegations of sexual assault to his high school, and Sandusky was banned from the child's school district in Clinton County in 2009. That triggered the state investigation that culminated in charges Saturday. The report alleges much earlier instances of abuse, and efforts by some who knew of it to stop it, to no avail. Kelly said that in 2002, a graduate assistant saw Sandusky sexually assault a naked boy, estimated to be about 10 years old, in the locker room of the Lasch Football Building on campus. The grad student and his father reported what he saw to Paterno, who immediately told Curley, prosecutors said. Curley and Schultz met with the graduate assistant about a week and a half later, Kelly said. Nothing happened. "Despite a powerful eyewitness statement about the sexual assault of a child, this incident was not reported to any law enforcement or child protective agency, as required by Pennsylvania law," Kelly said. There's no indication that anyone at school attempted to find the boy, or follow up with the witness, she said. Curley denied that the assistant had reported anything of a sexual nature, calling it "merely 'horsing around,'" the 23-page grand jury report said. But the jury said Curley was lying, Kelly said, adding that it also deemed portions of Schultz's testimony not to be credible. Curley testified that he barred Sandusky from bringing children onto campus and that he advised Penn State president Graham Spanier of the matter. Schultz told the jurors he also knew of a 1998 investigation involving sexually inappropriate behavior by Sandusky with a boy in the showers the football team used. But despite his job overseeing campus police, he never reported the 2002 allegations to any authorities, "never sought or received a police report on the 1998 incident and never attempted to learn the identity of the child in the show in 2002," the jurors wrote. "No one from the university did so." Spanier released a statement calling the allegations against Sandusky "troubling" and adding Curley and Schultz had his unconditional support. He predicted they will be exonerated. "I have known and worked daily with Tim and Gary for more than 16 years," he said. "I have complete confidence in how they handled the allegations about a former university employee." Sandusky, once considered a potential successor to Paterno, drew up the defenses for the Nittany Lions' national-title teams in 1982 and 1986. The team is enjoying another successful run this season; at 8-1, Penn State is ranked No. 16 in the AP Top 25 and is the last undefeated squad in Big Ten play. The Nittany Lions were off Saturday.
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11-07-2011, 08:34 PM	#211
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	lot of ridiculousness in this thread no one thinks any of this is ok but it's amazing that "all of these people knew" and not a single person did a thing about it... yet everyone in this thread and on this board would have immediately called the police and/or beat the bloody hell out of this FREAK! A college football player (most likely a stud athlete) was scared into not doing anything... but OTWP and Saul Good and everyone else would have done the right thing and would have been paraded as heroes!! excuse me while I call shenanigans the dude saw what he saw...was clearly horrified...talked to his dad, then went to A GUY HE PROBABLY IDOLIZED...who then took it to the AD who then talked to the president (or whatever) and then they all decided to squash it (or whatever)...but lets blame the G.A. it's a lot easier to be right when you're not thrust into a situation like this...this dude was a freaking legend in Penn State... he's obviously powerful enough to have been doing this for 20+ years while releasing books and getting feel good SI stories published about him... but the voices of ChiefsPlanet would have done the RIGHT thing! Because they have been in a situation like that before... it's comparable to a witness of some sort of mafia crime flipping their story... the guy saw something horrible, said something...and then was likely told "you tell anyone and we'll ****ing kill you"... but I'm sure that wouldn't rattle the badasses of ChiefsPlanet
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11-07-2011, 08:38 PM	#212
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	it's just unbelievable how much better everyone on this site thinks they are than everyone else when these monstrous stories occur... I'm sure Joe Paterno condones child molestation... I have a hard time believing all of these successful, high ranking officials stood by and tried to sweep child molestation under the rug...perhaps they were oblivious...in fact, I'm sure they were...but I doubt they really thought this guy was raping child after child.
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11-07-2011, 08:43 PM	#220
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	what this creep did was truly horrific... but lets burn him at the stake, not everyone else that has ever worked at Penn State I knew a kid in high school, a ladies man...girls loved him, was said to be "hung like a horse"... well a few years ago everyone started saying he was gay...that there was proof he was gay...and all of my friends were like..."wow, I can't believe that dude is gay!" I, for one, never believed it...I hung out with him all the time back in high school...he nailed some of the hottest girls I've ever seen...and a ton of them, too. Never once did he put off a gay vibe. Well it turns out he took a girl home and wouldn't ** her...so the girl decided he was gay...well the truth was he just couldn't get hard anymore. Serious ED problems. But everyone just assumed he was gay instead. So yeah...I'm sure Joe Paterno just stood by for 30 years while knowing this guy he worked closely with was having sex with 10 year old boys the entire time. I'm sure Paterno figured that would never come back to haunt him in any way! There is no way in my mind that any of these officials being targeted (IMO as bad as the actual criminal) actually thought this guy was having sex with children. Perhaps they knew he had some inappropriate interactions in the past, but I HIGHLY doubt anyone actually thought he was a sick ** child raper. I just can't imagine that being true. Maybe I have too much faith in humanity.
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