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Old 07-15-2015, 12:14 PM   #1
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That's what makes Houston so important. Ford's weakness is that he's slight enough that he's probably destined to be a weakside rusher. But when you have a 15-20 sack rusher on the strong side...who gives a shit? Ford now gets to use his greatest strength - absolutely obscene quickness and raw speed - to terrorize LTs. If you don't have an absolutely perfect kick-step, tough shit because offenses can't give you help or Houston will kill them. Give Ford even a passable inside swim move to keep LTs honest and the guy is probably a 12-15 sack player in his own right.

I keep getting back to 'what does Dante Fowler do that Dee Ford doesn't'? I just don't see a difference there and that's why I think we really got a great pick in Ford, even if I'd have preferred Bridgewater.

These two guys are going to terrorize offenses for a very long time.
I remember when we used to project how many sacks Eric Hicks and Duane Clemons (later Jared Allen) would combine for.

My, how things have changed.
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Old 07-15-2015, 12:26 PM   #2
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That's what makes Houston so important. Ford's weakness is that he's slight enough that he's probably destined to be a weakside rusher. But when you have a 15-20 sack rusher on the strong side...who gives a shit? Ford now gets to use his greatest strength - absolutely obscene quickness and raw speed - to terrorize LTs. If you don't have an absolutely perfect kick-step, tough shit because offenses can't give you help or Houston will kill them. Give Ford even a passable inside swim move to keep LTs honest and the guy is probably a 12-15 sack player in his own right.

I keep getting back to 'what does Dante Fowler do that Dee Ford doesn't'? I just don't see a difference there and that's why I think we really got a great pick in Ford, even if I'd have preferred Bridgewater.

These two guys are going to terrorize offenses for a very long time.
No doubt about it. Ford might be better suited to the weak side than even Houston could be given his speed anyway. If he can consistently get to QBs before the top of their drop, we could be the beneficiaries of a hefty amount of fumble recoveries.

It was more just a "What if" scenario suggestion. How many sacks could a guy rack up on the blind side when he just posted 22 from the strong side?
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Old 07-15-2015, 11:57 AM   #3
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I know folks still don't love the Dee Ford deal, but the idea of having these two absolute missiles manning the OLB posts for the next 4 years is damn exciting.
I'm not high on Ford but I definitely think he could become an excellent pass rusher.

I'm not worried about that, I'm worried about him in the running game...
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Justin Houston gets six-year, $101 million extension from Chiefs

Justin Houston is going to be a Kansas City Chief for years to come.

A source told The Star on Wednesday that Houston has agreed to a six-year, $101 million extension with the Chiefs that will not only make him the highest-paid Chief ever, but also one of the highest-paid defensive players in football.

“Today we were able to reach an agreement with Justin and his agent, Joel Segal, to keep him here in Kansas City for the foreseeable future,” Chiefs general manager John Dorsey said. “He’s one of the top players in the National Football League and a premier pass rusher. As we’ve said from the beginning, Justin the football player, and the person, is someone we wanted to be a part of our organization. We are very happy that he will remain a member of the Chiefs.”

ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported the news first.

The deal, which includes $52.5 million guaranteed, makes him the second-highest paid NFL defensive player behind Miami’s Ndamukong Suh (six years, $114 million). It tops the one Texans star defensive end J.J. Watt, who needed an iconic season to beat Houston out for defensive player of the year in 2014, received last September, when he inked a six-year, $100 million extension with $51.8 million guaranteed.

“John, Joel and their staffs did a great job of getting this deal done,” Chiefs head coach Andy Reid said. “Justin has a relentless work ethic on the field and in the classroom, and he provides our team with tremendous leadership. He is a fearless competitor, and we are glad he is going to be back.”

Wednesday marked the NFL’s deadline for franchise players to sign long-term extensions with their clubs.

Had the 26-year-old Houston, who received a $13.1 million franchise tender from the Chiefs this offseason, not agreed to a long-term deal, he would have had to play out the 2015 season on the tender or on a one-year deal he negotiated with the team to earn an accrued year toward free agency.

Houston, however, would have been no obligation to sign the franchise tender immediately. In the absence of a long-term deal, Houston could have held off on signing the tender, skipped training camp and the preseason and returned shortly before the regular season and still commanded his full franchise salary.

However, after much wrangling between the Chiefs and Houston’s agent, Joel Segal, over the past year — the two sides have been negotiating — they managed to avoid that scenario with a record-setting deal that will keep Houston under contract through 2020.

Houston has skipped organized team activities for the past two offseasons, but over the past several months, the Chiefs’ top decision makers — chairman Clark Hunt, coach Andy Reid and general manager John Dorsey — have consistently remained positive about a deal getting done.

Now Houston, who had a cap number of $1.4 million when he racked up a league- and career-high 22 sacks last season, is finally getting his money. And with a new contract now in hand, will be required to report to training camp on time.

Veterans report to camp in St. Joseph on July 31.
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I'm envisioning an ILB stunt in the gap between the LT, who kicks out in an effort to stonewall Ford's speed rush, and the LG who crashes down on Poe to assist the C.
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Kansas City Chiefs Sign Linebacker Justin Houston

The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Wednesday that the club has signed linebacker Justin Houston to a long-term contract. Terms of the contract were not disclosed by the club.

“Today we were able to reach an agreement with Justin and his agent, Joel Segal, to keep him here in Kansas City for the foreseeable future,” Chiefs General Manager John Dorsey said. “He’s one of the top players in the National Football League and a premier pass rusher. As we’ve said from the beginning, Justin the football player, and the person, is someone we wanted to be a part of our organization. We are very happy that he will remain a member of the Chiefs.”

“John, Joel and their staffs did a great job of getting this deal done,” Chiefs Head Coach Andy Reid said. “Justin has a relentless work ethic on the field and in the classroom, and he provides our team with tremendous leadership. He is a fearless competitor, and we are glad he is going to be back.”

Houston (6-3, 258) has recorded 248 tackles, 48.5 sacks, 19 passes defensed, one interception, seven forced fumbles, four fumble recoveries and 71 quarterback pressures in four seasons with the Chiefs (2011-14). He led the NFL in sacks (22.0) in 2014 and set the franchise’s single-season sack record, passing late Pro Football Hall of Famer Derrick Thomas’ previous record of 20.0 recorded in 1990. He was 0.5 sack shy of the NFL record (22.5). Houston has recorded 13 multi-sack games, seven of those were recorded this past season. He became just the fourth player in franchise history to record at least three seasons with double-digit sack totals (10.0 – 2012, 11.0 – 2013, 22.0 – 2014), joining LB Derrick Thomas (seven seasons), DE Neil Smith (four seasons) and LB Tamba Hali (three seasons).

The Statesboro, Georgia, native and former Georgia Bulldog has been selected to three consecutive Pro Bowls (2012-14). Houston originally entered the NFL as a third-round selection of the Chiefs (70th overall) in the 2011 NFL Draft.
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The entire "Hunts are cheap" rhetoric needs to be put to bed. They may not be as aggressive bringing in FAs as the fans would like, but I don't think money is what drives that.

Fact is, the Chiefs don't let their stars get away. The two biggest names to leave KC are Jared Allen and Neil Smith. I don't believe the Chiefs wanted to keep Allen, Smith took less money to play elsewhere because he has shit for brains.
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The entire "Hunts are cheap" rhetoric needs to be put to bed. They may not be as aggressive bringing in FAs as the fans would like, but I don't think money is what drives that.

Fact is, the Chiefs don't let their stars get away.
The latest argument I heard here about Hunt cheapness being the source of all our ills is that Clark is keeping the team from drafting a first round QB because he doesn't want to pay what it would cost for a contract extension if said QB was deserving of one.
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The latest argument I heard here about Hunt cheapness being the source of all our ills is that Clark is keeping the team from drafting a first round QB because he doesn't want to pay what it would cost for a contract extension if said QB was deserving of one.
Wasn't that Black Bob, though?
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