Hollywood Brown is expected to practice this week

[Dunerdr]

I don't know how any one can not point fingers at Mahomes as the season wears on. Does he have good reason to not trust the protection and WR? Yeah I guess. But at some point players gotta play. He's in his own head about it.

[O.city]

We're doing alot of tapdancing around the fact that last year.....it wasn't just the OL or the WR's raising their level.

The QB played well. He's not played well this year.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

We're doing alot of tapdancing around the fact that last year.....it wasn't just the OL or the WR's raising their level.

The QB played well. He's not played well this year.

What's this 'we' shit?

I've been cocking my head a bit sideways at Mahomes since the Lions game last season.

It's just so obvious that this offense goes as he goes -- and that's how it SHOULD be.

Too often over the last two seasons he just hasn't been sharp.

Now NONE of that precludes him being an absolute buzzsaw when the post-season starts. He's shown that he's capable of flipping that switch and kicking ass.

If your goal is winning the SB, there isn't a QB you'd rather have on your roster regardless of what he does in the regular season.

But the issues with this offense start with him.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by O.city

We're doing alot of tapdancing around the fact that last year.....it wasn't just the OL or the WR's raising their level.

The QB played well. He's not played well this year.

I know you've chosen to die on the hill that if Mahomes is getting paid so much, he has to play better. And you're right. But, if the OL plays better, Mahomes plays better also. No denying that. Two things can be right.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by TEX

I know you've chosen to die on the hill that if Mahomes is getting paid so much, he has to play better. And you're right. But, if the OL plays better, Mahomes plays better also. No denying that. Two things can be right.

I think the difference in our respective outlooks is simple:

If the OL doesn't play any better at all than it did in the mid-season, this team can win a championship by Mahomes simply playing to his ability. Hitting the shots he has and not feeling phantom pressure. Stop moving yourself into contact, run the offense.

That doesn't mean things are going to be easy for him or that they're going to put up 40+. But with this OL playing as it did for the middle part of the season, Mahomes can raise his level to a place sufficient for us to win championships. We don't NEED a significant improvement at OL.

Meanwhile, if the OL were to become a brick wall and Mahomes were to STILL see phantom pressure and STILL miss open shots (or simply not throw them), we lose.

You're using the OL improvement as a proxy for Mahomes improvement and saying one is vital to the other. I'm saying the Mahomes improvement is ALL that matters. And even if the OL doesn't improve substantially, Mahomes getting even to his level of last post-season will be enough to 3-peat.

But it starts with Mahomes.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think the difference in our respective outlooks is simple:

If the OL doesn't play any better at all than it did in the mid-season, this team can win a championship by Mahomes simply playing to his ability. Hitting the shots he has and not feeling phantom pressure. Stop moving yourself into contact, run the offense.

That doesn't mean things are going to be easy for him or that they're going to put up 40+. But with this OL playing as it did for the middle part of the season, Mahomes can raise his level to a place sufficient for us to win championships. We don't NEED a significant improvement at OL.

Meanwhile, if the OL were to become a brick wall and Mahomes were to STILL see phantom pressure and STILL miss open shots (or simply not throw them), we lose.

You're using the OL improvement as a proxy for Mahomes improvement and saying one is vital to the other. I'm saying the Mahomes improvement is ALL that matters. And even if the OL doesn't improve substantially, Mahomes getting even to his level of last post-season will be enough to 3-peat.

But it starts with Mahomes.

What I keep coming back to is the "he's getting hit and it's messing with his mental timing". Well, all Qb's get hit, it's the NFL.

I dunno. It's weird. He's been knocked around before, is this just a cumulative effect?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TEX

I know you've chosen to die on the hill that if Mahomes is getting paid so much, he has to play better. And you're right. But, if the OL plays better, Mahomes plays better also. No denying that. Two things can be right.

They've gotta cut corners somewhere when guys start making the money they are. It's just the way it is.

Some things will work out, some won't.

But if he doesn't play to a certain standard, we're pretty much drawing dead.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by O.city

They've gotta cut corners somewhere when guys start making the money they are. It's just the way it is.

Some things will work out, some won't.

But if he doesn't play to a certain standard, we're pretty much drawing dead.

Oh yes. Totally agree.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

They've gotta cut corners somewhere when guys start making the money they are. It's just the way it is.

Some things will work out, some won't.

But if he doesn't play to a certain standard, we're pretty much drawing dead.

As it should be, but I will remind you that this team has already shown those flashes when it needs to.

The game winning drives vs the Bucs, Chargers and Panthers all looked like playoff Mahomes. You’re not gonna go Super Saiyan every single week bud. These teams want to beat us. Every week is another teams SB. The Browns Hard Knocks episode literally proved that. They pumped that game up.

These guys look tired. They look like they need a break bc they do. They know they have less than a week to push for getting a 3 week break to refresh and prepare for the playoff run.

Mahomes is the best 3rd down QB in the league and has 7 game winning drives this year. That’s 1 shy of the NFL record for most in a season.

The flashes are there.

[SHOWTIME]

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[LagunaSWana]

Getting back to Hollywood Brown, what do we expect from him on Saturday? I think it's a bit of a fantasy that he will come in and suddenly make our deep passing game relevant again, so will he be an effective replacement for what Rice was giving before he got hurt? I honestly just don't know his game that well and what to expect.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by LagunaSWana

Getting back to Hollywood Brown, what do we expect from him on Saturday? I think it's a bit of a fantasy that he will come in and suddenly make our deep passing game relevant again, so will he be an effective replacement for what Rice was giving before he got hurt? I honestly just don't know his game that well and what to expect.

I disagree. I fully expect the passing game plan to look better and more balanced. As far as his individual production? I really don't know. I doubt Andy dials up a lot for him out of the gate, but I still expect his presence to be felt.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

I disagree. I fully expect the passing game plan to look better and more balanced. As far as his individual production? I really don't know. I doubt Andy dials up a lot for him out of the gate, but I still expect his presence to be felt.

I think the biggest difference he'll make is in the intermediate game and on crossers.

We don't have a lot of catch and run in the offense right now. Most of the YAC seems to come on designed quick hitters/screens. The 'gadget plays' that everyone hates.

But we don't get much YAC within the flow of the offense at all and I think Hollywood can help a lot there.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Originally Posted by LagunaSWana

Getting back to Hollywood Brown, what do we expect from him on Saturday? I think it's a bit of a fantasy that he will come in and suddenly make our deep passing game relevant again, so will he be an effective replacement for what Rice was giving before he got hurt? I honestly just don't know his game that well and what to expect.

5 catches, 89 yds, one 2-point conversion reception.

You're welcome, and don't ask me how I know. You seem like a nice guy and I would hate to have to kill you.

[O.city]

Expecting the 2018 offense to appear? No.

Punting 9 times in a game in which Patrick Mahomes is your QB and Andy Reid is your OC/HC is a problem.