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Old 08-19-2012, 01:41 AM   #1
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What's ludicrous is defending McCluster at all.

He's a shitty #4 WR.

Yeah, that's better than an actual playmaker like Toby Gerhart...or a pretty nice pass rusher like Carlos Dunlap...or a beast TE like Gronkowski.

To say those players are worse than a guy who averaged 7 yards a catch tonight is hilarious. To bring up his pathetic rushing stats in defense of him is even more hilarious.

The McCluster pick just gets worse and worse. And yet people on this board think he's our best receiver. WHAT?

He'll probably get 10 snaps a game when Bowe is back.

TOTALLY WORTH THAT PICK NOW, HUH?
You're a ****ing dumbass.

You're going to tell me that he wasn't a better selection than 27 other picks in Round Two of the 2010 draft? Seriously?
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Old 08-19-2012, 01:43 AM   #2
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You're a ****ing dumbass.

You're going to tell me that he wasn't a better selection than 27 other picks in Round Two of the 2010 draft? Seriously?
I've already identified at least 5 players (closer to 10) who offer a lot more value.

It's not hard to offer more value than a #4 WR who lacks playmaking ability, let's be honest.

It's not hard at all.

Dex was a horrible pick that the highest paid GM in football ****ed up hard on.
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Old 08-19-2012, 01:46 AM   #3
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I've already identified at least 5 players (closer to 10) who offer a lot more value.

It's not hard to offer more value than a #4 WR who lacks playmaking ability, let's be honest.

It's not hard at all.

Dex was a horrible pick that the highest paid GM in football ****ed up hard on.
Bullshit.

How many games did Dunlap win on his own? How many games did Misi win on his own? How many games has Gerhart won on his own?

Without McCluster, this team would have been sitting home in the playoffs his rookie season. Add that to his contributions at any position he's been asked to play, and I'd say he's been a pretty integral part of the Chiefs the past two seasons. And I expect that role to grow this year.

Chill with the histrionics, Dude.
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Old 08-19-2012, 01:40 AM   #4
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1) 6 passes that went for more than 10 yards in a half a game is improvement from Matt. I'll take that as an average from him for the year, if that's the case.

2) McCluster had more yards than Breaston last year. Also, I think it's funnyyou throw out that Dexter had 850 yards last year, but use Breastons 1 season he had 1006 yards as some arguing point. Dexters 850 are MORE yards than ANY YEAR Breaston had with exception of that one 1006 yard season.

So far, Daboll has Dexter above Breaston and before you try to claim it's because of some "Pioli is trying to save face for a bad pick herp"...realize that Pioli gave Breaston a mid level free agent deal with about 10 million in guarantees. Awfully silly to think he wouldnt want that guy to play because he is forcing Daboll to move DMC up the depth chart.
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Old 08-19-2012, 01:42 AM   #5
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1) 6 passes that went for more than 10 yards in a half a game is improvement from Matt. I'll take that as an average from him for the year, if that's the case.
What?

He didn't throw the ball past 10 yards.

The players who caught his shitty short throw did all the work.

Wake up.

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Yeah, OK. **** you. Dexter will get 10 snaps a game this year as the #4 WR. Watch.

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So far, Daboll has Dexter above Breaston
So far, you're being incredibly ignorant. Steve Breaston started the ****ing game tonight. He's the #2. So, you're wrong.
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Old 08-19-2012, 01:40 AM   #6
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Please shut the **** up about "The Dexter Pick" and #36.

Its been 2 yrs. Get the **** over that.

If you dislike the player, fine. Argue that point.
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Old 08-19-2012, 01:44 AM   #7
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Please shut the **** up about "The Dexter Pick" and #36.

Its been 2 yrs. Get the **** over that.

If you dislike the player, fine. Argue that point.
What's ridiculous is that he's acting like McCluster is Junior Siavii or Kris Wilson or Eddie Freeman or Turk McBride or William Bartee.
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Old 08-19-2012, 01:45 AM   #8
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What's ridiculous is that he's acting like McCluster is Junior Siavii or Kris Wilson or Eddie Freeman or Turk McBride or William Bartee.
He's EXACTLY like those players.

He's a shitty #4 WR who catches dumpoffs and little 5-yard outs.

He's nothing special whatsoever.

Tonight proved it.
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Old 08-19-2012, 01:49 AM   #9
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He's EXACTLY like those players.

He's a shitty #4 WR who catches dumpoffs and little 5-yard outs.

He's nothing special whatsoever.

Tonight proved it.

Youre trying way too hard to put McCluster down. He like Baldwin can only take the chances given to him. Hes done that. Good for him.

Yes it was a shitty pick. Probs time to get over it.
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Yes it was a shitty pick. Probs time to get over it.
I'll get over it when people stop defending the pick.

The dude isn't close to our best receiver.
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Old 08-19-2012, 01:54 AM   #11
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Youre trying way too hard to put McCluster down. He like Baldwin can only take the chances given to him. Hes done that. Good for him.


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Yes it was a shitty pick. Probs time to get over it.
He's only a shitty pick if you compare him to Gronk. Any of other positions that Clay listed weren't positions of need.

Misi wasn't going to replace Belcher. Dunlap is a 4-3 guy. Benn is garbage. So on and so forth.
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You expect his role to grow?

As the #4 WR?

In a run-first offense?

Dane, come on man.

You know how many catches the #4 WR is worth in a Matt Cassel/Brian Daboll offense?

About 15, maybe 20.

Go look it up. Look up the history of #4 wide receivers in Matt Cassel offenses.

THEY DON'T DO SHIT.

And since Dex is a worthless receiver who has zero ability past 10 yards (unless he's open by 10 yards, which isn't going to happen often), he'll do less than shit.
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This is an instance of Clay trying to grow as a poster by trying to stick to his guns and not flip flop and to a degree, I can respect that.

The thing is....Dexter is looking like a guy that will play A LOT more than he thinks and being he is quickly earning the trust of Cassel, will also get his share of passes thrown in his direction.

Like I've said a few times before, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see DMC gain MORE yards this year with LESS touches.

The guy is very quick in and out of his cuts and now runs routes that are very detail oriented.

It's gonna be hard for linebackers to cover him one on one when we shift and motion him around to FORCE teams into those situations.
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The thing is....Dexter is looking like a guy that will play A LOT more than he thinks
Based on what?

He is not the #3 when Bowe returns.

He is the #4.

Dunno why it's so hard for people to see this.

As for me sticking to my guns, if all Dex continues to do is catch dumpoffs, well, shit, I win this whole argument.
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Old 08-19-2012, 02:01 AM   #15
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Based on what?

He is not the #3 when Bowe returns.

He is the #4.

Dunno why it's so hard for people to see this.

As for me sticking to my guns, if all Dex continues to do is catch dumpoffs, well, shit, I win this whole argument.
It's all about the defensive matchups.

There will be some teams in which Breaston matches up better and some teams in which McCluster will match up better.

It's a good problem to have.
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