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Old 02-19-2009, 03:15 PM   #1
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The problem seems to be that people on both sides of the debate feel like there's no one but their choice that's worth the #3 pick. To me, it's a sign that there aren't that many players coming out with elite talent, and it sucks that the year we decide to take a bath on the season is the same year that the draft class sucks at the top.
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:18 PM   #2
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The problem seems to be that people on both sides of the debate feel like there's no one but their choice that's worth the #3 pick. To me, it's a sign that there aren't that many players coming out with elite talent, and it sucks that the year we decide to take a bath on the season is the same year that the draft class sucks at the top.
I disagree with this.

The people in the Sanchez camp act this way for sure.

The people who aren't in that camp, for the most part, say that if Pioli/Haley likes him enough to take him there though, they'll be cool with it.

The other group basically says that if they don't take one of the 2 QBs then Pioli and Haley are morons.
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:18 PM   #3
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I honestly don't understand the continued talk of a weak draft class and it being a bad thing to be at the top. There are two top QB prospects, and, with the #3 pick, it's almost certain one will be available. Just so happens the Chiefs have a major need at this position.

This is a great year for the Chiefs; there aren't always 2 top QB's.

Yeah, yeah, you all have "doubts" about Sanchez. If it weren't him, it would be "doubts" about QB X...
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:46 PM   #4
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I honestly don't understand the continued talk of a weak draft class and it being a bad thing to be at the top. There are two top QB prospects, and, with the #3 pick, it's almost certain one will be available. Just so happens the Chiefs have a major need at this position.

This is a great year for the Chiefs; there aren't always 2 top QB's.

Yeah, yeah, you all have "doubts" about Sanchez. If it weren't him, it would be "doubts" about QB X...
You act like the "True Fans" on the board are the only ones with those "doubts." There is a reason why so many have him as a mid first round prospect in this weak class. Hopefully all those people are wrong though, and we draft him, and he is great.
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:52 PM   #5
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You act like the "True Fans" on the board are the only ones with those "doubts." There is a reason why so many have him as a mid first round prospect in this weak class. Hopefully all those people are wrong though, and we draft him, and he is great.
I hope so, too.

From now until draft day, my question to those who think Sanchez is unworthy of the #3 selection is going to be this:

Would you welcome selecting Davis or Freeman in round 2?

With few exceptions, this is going to be a reliable idiot detector, for reasons I noted earlier in this thread.
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:54 PM   #6
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I hope so, too.

From now until draft day, my question to those who think Sanchez is unworthy of the #3 selection is going to be this:

Would you welcome selecting Davis or Freeman in round 2?

With few exceptions, this is going to be a reliable idiot detector, for reasons I noted earlier in this thread.
I see what you're saying, but depending on what you look for in a QB, I can see that side too.

It's kind of like Flacco to Ryan last year IMO. Flacco had the strong arm and Ryan had the experience, intangibles, etc. I kind of look at Freeman and Davis about like Flacco.
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:58 PM   #7
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I see what you're saying, but depending on what you look for in a QB, I can see that side too.

It's kind of like Flacco to Ryan last year IMO. Flacco had the strong arm and Ryan had the experience, intangibles, etc. I kind of look at Freeman and Davis about like Flacco.
Enough people on this board have seen Freeman play that he's not highly coveted, at least from what I can see. But few, however, have seen much if anything of Davis, aside from the conference championship game, where he looked like ass.

For this crowd, the yes to Davis will be based primarily on bullshit reasons and fear. Taking a far riskier prospect with an extremely valuable draft choice is ****ing dumb.

This sounds almost poll worthy. Sanchez in round 1 or Davis/Freeman in round 2, which would you prefer? Public poll, of course.
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:01 PM   #8
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I hope so, too.

From now until draft day, my question to those who think Sanchez is unworthy of the #3 selection is going to be this:

Would you welcome selecting Davis or Freeman in round 2?

With few exceptions, this is going to be a reliable idiot detector, for reasons I noted earlier in this thread.
Freeman no because he is from K-State

Davis is a possibility. The guy has been a starter since his freshman year so that is a plus but I really don't enough about him to say yes or no.

Also just playing devil's advocate here you could make the case much like Bradford, Sanchez has faced inferior defenses. I went and looked up Pac-10 defensive rankings and besides USC only one other team finished in the Top 30 and that is California at 27.
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:03 PM   #9
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I hope so, too.

From now until draft day, my question to those who think Sanchez is unworthy of the #3 selection is going to be this:

Would you welcome selecting Davis or Freeman in round 2?

With few exceptions, this is going to be a reliable idiot detector, for reasons I noted earlier in this thread.
If Vontae Davis is available as the #3 pick in the second round, depending on who is on the board also, I would definitely be happy with the pick. I'm decently happy with our current secondary, but another terrific prospect at CB is not going to hurt my feelings in the least. I honestly don't see any way that he is going to be available in the second round though.

As for Freeman, I'm not at all interested. He seems too much like Thigpen in that he has a strong arm, but lacks accuracy and the touch needed to play in anything other than a spread offense.
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:04 PM   #10
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If Vontae Davis is available as the #3 pick in the second round, depending on who is on the board also, I would definitely be happy with the pick. I'm decently happy with our current secondary, but another terrific prospect at CB is not going to hurt my feelings in the least. I honestly don't see any way that he is going to be available in the second round though.

As for Freeman, I'm not at all interested. He seems too much like Thigpen in that he has a strong arm, but lacks accuracy and the touch needed to play in anything other than a spread offense.
Nate Davis.

Good grief, man. We're talking QB's here, though I know you included a TE in the discussion earlier (Tebow).

And Freeman operated out of a pro-style offense, so I'm not sure about your analysis in the last line.
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:15 PM   #11
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If Vontae Davis is available as the #3 pick in the second round, depending on who is on the board also, I would definitely be happy with the pick. I'm decently happy with our current secondary, but another terrific prospect at CB is not going to hurt my feelings in the least. I honestly don't see any way that he is going to be available in the second round though.

As for Freeman, I'm not at all interested. He seems too much like Thigpen in that he has a strong arm, but lacks accuracy and the touch needed to play in anything other than a spread offense.
Vontae Davis is a top 20 pick so just give up on that now..

And please stop pining for spread monkeys that's begging for failure.
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:56 PM   #12
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:09 PM   #13
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I've looked at the video you posted - I don't see anything terribly impressive about his arm. On his long tds, his receiver is always running 5 yds away from the nearest defender and has plenty of time to adjust to the ball.

I also haven't seen anybody off ChiefsPlanet say Sanchez has anything but an average arm. I'm open to any new info on this not authored by someone named "Mecca" or ""Hamas"" or the like.
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I've looked at the video you posted - I don't see anything terribly impressive about his arm. On his long tds, his receiver is always running 5 yds away from the nearest defender and has plenty of time to adjust to the ball.

I also haven't seen anybody off ChiefsPlanet say Sanchez has anything but an average arm. I'm open to any new info on this not authored by someone named "Mecca" or ""Hamas"" or the like.
The only person that thinks he has a shitty arm is Todd McShay...hear read some reaction to it..

Thanks..

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30102
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