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ShowtimeSBMVP · 11:13 AM

Executives crying foul over Emmanuel Sanders deal

By Ian Rapoport NFL.com
NFL Media Insider
Published: March 16, 2014 at 12:05 a.m. Updated: March 16, 2014 at 12:19 a.m. 8 Likes | 2 Comments
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Emmanuel Sanders is expected to sign with the Broncos tomorrow, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations."

Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Bucs, according to another source involved in the process.

While shopping the Chiefs offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off.

"This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped."

Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations.

The Dallas-based agent was recently reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collecting a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients.

Weinberg has two clients currently on NFL teams, not including Sanders. He had 42 before he was barred.

While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, by Weinberg shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that a deal had been reached showed another side of the business. It is unclear if the Broncos were aware of the previous actions.

"When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... Not proper."

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mcaj22 · 03-13-2014, 11:05 PM

if I've ever wanted a Chiefs draft pick to exceed expectations and beat out a scabby veteran for a starting position it would be Nico Johnson making Joe Mays a training camp cut.

**BossChief** · 03-13-2014, 11:11 PM

Nah, for the peanuts he's getting Mays is ok staying on as depth.

I don't like the guy, either...but maybe he will make Denver pay twice a year...I'm also a fan of Nico Johnson.

That should be an open competition

Chiefshrink · 03-13-2014, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I would honestly not be opposed to using next years 3rd round pick to move up in this years draft.

We're getting a 3rd round comp pick next year, so it will even out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Didnt you try to clown me when I said this yesterday?

Honestly, if we can take next years second and this years third and get into the top 40 picks, I'd be all over it.

I'd give next years first and third for any teams first this year, too.

Nah, I really believe because this year's draft is sooooo deep in talent in all positions, I think we sit in the catbird seat to some degree and could actually acquire a few picks if we trade down a few spots that will really help us out this year and next and still get our guys this year. I wouldn't give up next year's 2nd and this year's 3rd NO WAY not with this talent level this year.

rico · 03-13-2014, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Nah, I really believe because this year's draft is sooooo deep in talent in all positions, I think we sit in the catbird seat to some degree and could actually acquire a few picks if we trade down a few spots that will really help us out this year and next and still get our guys this year. I wouldn't give up next year's 2nd and this year's 3rd NO WAY not with this talent level this year.

**BossChief** · 03-13-2014, 11:31 PM

You don't understand.

Our second in next years draft will be lucky to be similar to our third this year...but once you get into the top 45 picks of this class, you are getting a guy that would be a first rounder in most any draft.

IMO trading next years second and this years third to get into the meat of the first rounders this year would be well worth it.

If we can do that along with moving down from 23 to the 29-40 range while adding another 2nd would be like getting 3 first round picks this year.

That's the kinda pimpin I'm hollering about to anyone that will listen.

**BossChief** · 03-13-2014, 11:34 PM

Something like that could get us something like

Jace Amaro
Brandin Cooks
Jimmy Ward

Sign me up, please.

**** a late second in next years draft.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-13-2014, 11:38 PM

We really need to sign this guy, but do we have the $$$? I suppose if we do Avery could be gone anyway. In fact, if Avery gets cut tomorrow, we know why. Then draft a safety, passrusher, or tight end.

**BossChief** · 03-13-2014, 11:42 PM

Why cut Avery?

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-13-2014, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Why cut Avery?

Money. Cutting Avery could be the difference is getting him or not, and it's well documented that the front office likes Hemingway and Jenkins a lot.

Simply Red · 03-13-2014, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Why cut Avery?

because he had a crucial 79 yd TD catch IN the Playoffs - WHEN it mattered most, WHEN our shit Defense couldn't do shit & guess what? ... not only did he catch it, he house'd it.

Dante84 · 03-13-2014, 11:45 PM

I want Sanders AND a rookie WR like Beckham or Cooks. I'd say one of the stud TE's, but in any other draft those quality wideouts don't last that deep in the round, and the stud TE's usually do.
Make-shift TE's will work if your starters go down, see McGrath. Makeshift WR's are ****ing painful to watch, and that's where we'll be if bowe or sanders go down (assuming we cut Avery). Hemingway is decent, but he's not more than a 3, and would make a great 4.

Dante84 · 03-13-2014, 11:45 PM

And Jenkins is risky.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-13-2014, 11:51 PM

I would keep Donnie but the money issue to me + their feelings on Jenkins and Hemingway = cut if we sign Sanders. He saves about 1 million to cut right now.

Simply Red · 03-13-2014, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I would keep Donnie but I the money issue to me + their feelings on Jenkins and Hemingway = cut. He saves about 1 million to cut right now.

you're the one who works for KC Chiefs - right? same poster? Trying to remember here....

Simply Red · 03-13-2014, 11:57 PM

Aj Jenkins ran a 4.30 Forty - Yes - keep this man!!

03-13-2014, 06:39 PM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1256009	WR Emmanuel Sanders signs with Denver - Executives cry foul Executives crying foul over Emmanuel Sanders deal By Ian Rapoport NFL.com NFL Media Insider Published: March 16, 2014 at 12:05 a.m. Updated: March 16, 2014 at 12:19 a.m. 8 Likes \| 2 Comments Email Print Read Discuss Emmanuel Sanders is expected to sign with the Broncos tomorrow, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations." Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Bucs, according to another source involved in the process. While shopping the Chiefs offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off. "This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped." Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations. The Dallas-based agent was recently reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collecting a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients. Weinberg has two clients currently on NFL teams, not including Sanders. He had 42 before he was barred. While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, by Weinberg shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that a deal had been reached showed another side of the business. It is unclear if the Broncos were aware of the previous actions. "When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... Not proper." Adam Schefter ✔ @AdamSchefter Follow Denver is giving former Steelers WR Emmanuel Sanders a 3-year, $15M contract. Team announced agreement. Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 03-16-2014 at 11:13 AM..
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03-13-2014, 11:05 PM	#256
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	if I've ever wanted a Chiefs draft pick to exceed expectations and beat out a scabby veteran for a starting position it would be Nico Johnson making Joe Mays a training camp cut.
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03-13-2014, 11:11 PM	#257
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1675912	Nah, for the peanuts he's getting Mays is ok staying on as depth. I don't like the guy, either...but maybe he will make Denver pay twice a year...I'm also a fan of Nico Johnson. That should be an open competition __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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03-13-2014, 11:31 PM	#260
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1675912	You don't understand. Our second in next years draft will be lucky to be similar to our third this year...but once you get into the top 45 picks of this class, you are getting a guy that would be a first rounder in most any draft. IMO trading next years second and this years third to get into the meat of the first rounders this year would be well worth it. If we can do that along with moving down from 23 to the 29-40 range while adding another 2nd would be like getting 3 first round picks this year. That's the kinda pimpin I'm hollering about to anyone that will listen. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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03-13-2014, 11:34 PM	#261
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1675912	Something like that could get us something like Jace Amaro Brandin Cooks Jimmy Ward Sign me up, please. **** a late second in next years draft. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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03-13-2014, 11:38 PM	#262
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6629447	We really need to sign this guy, but do we have the $$$? I suppose if we do Avery could be gone anyway. In fact, if Avery gets cut tomorrow, we know why. Then draft a safety, passrusher, or tight end.
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03-13-2014, 11:42 PM	#263
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1675912	Why cut Avery? __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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03-13-2014, 11:45 PM	#266
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-1968004 VARSITY	I want Sanders AND a rookie WR like Beckham or Cooks. I'd say one of the stud TE's, but in any other draft those quality wideouts don't last that deep in the round, and the stud TE's usually do. Make-shift TE's will work if your starters go down, see McGrath. Makeshift WR's are ****ing painful to watch, and that's where we'll be if bowe or sanders go down (assuming we cut Avery). Hemingway is decent, but he's not more than a 3, and would make a great 4. __________________ ..
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03-13-2014, 11:45 PM	#267
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-1968004 VARSITY	And Jenkins is risky. __________________ ..
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03-13-2014, 11:51 PM	#268
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6629447	I would keep Donnie but the money issue to me + their feelings on Jenkins and Hemingway = cut if we sign Sanders. He saves about 1 million to cut right now.
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03-13-2014, 11:57 PM	#270
Simply Red You Sweetie! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021206219 VARSITY	Aj Jenkins ran a 4.30 Forty - Yes - keep this man!!
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