Cardinals vs. Chicago at Wrigley Field Weekend Thread

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie

so, for three straight years now, Soriano has been amazing in terms of throwing runners out or assisting outs from the outfield...yet Hamas, who knows every 2nd baseman and their arm strength (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=223) just now figured out, today, Soriano has among the leagues best, if not the leagues best, arm in the outfield...and he gets to watch the Cubs several times a year because of WGN and because they play against the Cardinals...

So, he knows "Kinsler has an awful arm. Kennedy's is weak for a major league player, Luis Castillo does not have a strong major league arm, nor do Ellis, Carroll, Barfield, Kendrick, Kelly Johnson, Hudson, Cairo, among others." this...about obscure 2nd basemen from obscure teams that are rarely televised, but Soriano was news to him today...

Can you talk out of your ass anymore Mr. Intellectual Cool Guy!?

Kennedy plays every day for the Cards, I see Carroll play all the time because he was on the Rockies, and I have three Rockies on my fantasy team. I saw Barfield play in Cleveland when I lived in Ohio and only got STO. Cairo is a former Cardinal, Johnson plays for the Braves and a lot of their games are readily available. I saw Castillo play multiple times in the '03 playoffs, Hudson and Kinsler have both been on my fantasy teams, so I have watched games that they've played many times.

Again, thanks for attempting to refute your dumbass claim that players peak from 30-35. We'll just ignore that one won't we. Or the fact that you claim that players hit just as many homers at 40. Or that you put your weakest hitters at left field, and your weakest arms.

If I'm so worked up, and you're so calm and cool, why do you keep digging up these blogs to talk about Soriano's arm?

By the way, the time that I did block you was because people asked me why I kept pushing your shit in in every thread you bitched in. I took advice from Donger, and just blocked your ass. It got tired and old because you're like a little Chihuahua with his dick hanging out. You've got to run into every room and yap about what a badass you are. It doesn't matter if it's a football thread, video game thread, a thread about computers, poker, or baseball, it's the same old tired schtick.

And for the record, other than A-Rod and a roided up Tejada, there never were a ton of homerun hitting shortstops.

Utley and Uggla are the only two shortstops with more than 16 homers this year. There are 15 3B with more than 16 homers, and about 15 1st baseman with more than 16.

Please, continue talking out of your ass though, as 2B is such a huge power position.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

In summation, Hootie's argument is that power hitting shortstops get moved to second despite the fact that there are the same number of power hitting 2nd baseman as there are shortstops in the bigs, two. Furthermore, 2nd is the new first, despite the fact that there are 7 times more first baseman with 15+ homers than 2nd baseman.

For a student of the game and a fantasy God, you'd think you'd know a little bit more about stats than what you do.

[BigRedChief]

I just saw the replay of the first Jim Edmonds home run. That was bush league. Looking over at the dugout and flipping the bat towards where Larussa is sitting in the dugout.

I bet he gets hit by a pitch and we have a brawl in the next two days.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I just saw the replay of the first Jim Edmonds home run. That was bush league. Looking over at the dugout and flipping the bat towards where Larussa is sitting in the dugout.

I bet he gets hit by a pitch and we have a brawl in the next two days.

You and I both know that Tony doesn't play that.

Funny how he wasn't acting like a badass when he wore the sombrero in his first game against us, eh?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You and I both know that Tony doesn't play that.

Funny how he wasn't acting like a badass when he wore the sombrero in his first game against us, eh?

I think there was something between Tony and Jim that never was made public. Exchanged words in front of the team, refused to do something Tony told him to do?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I think there was something between Tony and Jim that never was made public. Exchamged words in front of the team, refused to do something Tony told him to do?

Oh there was definitely a falling out, but Tony just doesn't throw at people. Now some guys, like Carp or Wainwright, will bean motherfuckers, but the edict won't come from Tony.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Oh there was definitely a falling out, but Tony just doesn't throw at people. Now some guys, like Carp or Wainwright, will bean motherfuckers, but the edict won't come from Tony.

It may come from a player. The dudes showing us up. Put him in his place.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

from Bernie,

When FSN Midwest’s Brent Stover and Mike Claiborne (KTRS) approached Edmonds after the game for a quickie on-field interview that’s a standard courtesy for rights holders, Edmonds blew them off and said.

”’I’m (censored) done with St. Louis TV and radio and I’m (censored) done with the Cardinals,’ ’’

And then he walked into the Cubs dugout.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

from Bernie,

When FSN Midwest’s Brent Stover and Mike Claiborne (KTRS) approached Edmonds after the game for a quickie on-field interview that’s a standard courtesy for rights holders, Edmonds blew them off and said.

”’I’m (censored) done with St. Louis TV and radio and I’m (censored) done with the Cardinals,’ ’’

And then he walked into the Cubs dugout.

The Cards are going to get sweeped! Hahahahahahaha!

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

from Bernie,

When FSN Midwest’s Brent Stover and Mike Claiborne (KTRS) approached Edmonds after the game for a quickie on-field interview that’s a standard courtesy for rights holders, Edmonds blew them off and said.

”’I’m (censored) done with St. Louis TV and radio and I’m (censored) done with the Cardinals,’ ’’

And then he walked into the Cubs dugout.

It'll pass. Remember when Neal Smith went to the Broncos? A lot of harsh things were said on both sides. I see hm at Chiefs charity events and out at the games now.


I don't think Jummy has anything against the fans. For crissakes they gave him a standing O when Larussa sais we should ignore him. Probably not too far from Allen's situation with the Chiefs. Hates King Carl but loves the fans.

[Lurker2:-)=)]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

from Bernie,

When FSN Midwest’s Brent Stover and Mike Claiborne (KTRS) approached Edmonds after the game for a quickie on-field interview that’s a standard courtesy for rights holders, Edmonds blew them off and said.

”’I’m (censored) done with St. Louis TV and radio and I’m (censored) done with the Cardinals,’ ’’

And then he walked into the Cubs dugout.

I don't put much stock in Bernie's articles. I'm not a Cardinals OR a Cubs fan, btw.
In the interests of what was really written, though: Here's the link to the article:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/spo...3?OpenDocument
(if this doesn't open here's the link to the sports page http://www.stltoday.com/sports/cards ) where you can check out any of the Cardinal-Cub game Post articles.)

There is no "(censored)" in the Edmonds quote as published by Bernie in the Post.

Bernie makes this huge deal about Edmonds flipping his bat at the Cardinals dugout and staring at them after his first home run. Bernie interprets this as "Take this bat, Tony La Russa. Take this bat and..."
When asked about this in another Post article (by Joe Strauss), La Russa is quoted as saying, “Everyone flips the bat. Why do you want to stir up stuff like this? He’s been a good player his whole career and he had a good day. I didn't notice… that’s just the way the game is played today.”

I think "Edmonds hates the Cardinals" and "anti-Cubs"stuff simply sells more papers in St Louis and that's why Bernie (among others) writes this kind of stuff.

[Flustrated]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

from Bernie,

When FSN Midwest’s Brent Stover and Mike Claiborne (KTRS) approached Edmonds after the game for a quickie on-field interview that’s a standard courtesy for rights holders, Edmonds blew them off and said.

”’I’m (censored) done with St. Louis TV and radio and I’m (censored) done with the Cardinals,’ ’’

And then he walked into the Cubs dugout.

Atta Boy, Jimmy!

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 58+90=sack

Atta Boy, Jimmy!

See this is what I'm talking about. It was percieved as dissing the Cardinals. Showing them up. It was talked about on sportscenter. The players watch sportscenter. They are being percieved as being "shown up". Baseball etiquette says retribution musr be paid. Bob Gibson style. Just let them hit themselfs and let the benchs clear. Its time for a Cubs/Cardinals bench clearning brawl anyway. Its been too long.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

See this is what I'm talking about. It was percieved as dissing the Cardinals. Showing them up. It was talked about on sportscenter. The players watch sportscenter. They are being percieved as being "shown up". Baseball etiquette says retribution musr be paid. Bob Gibson style. Just let them hit themselfs and let the benchs clear. Its time for a Cubs/Cardinals bench clearning brawl anyway. Its been too long.

In the words of Maverick, the Cubs lineup is a "target rich environment".

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

In the words of Maverick, the Cubs lineup is a "target rich environment".

You can't hit Edmonds and you want to wait until the later innings. Maybe send Franklin in there to plunk a guy. We won't miss him for a few games. No need to head hunt. Just plunk him in the thigh.

I bet the umpries warn them before the game. Its a nationally televised game. MLB doesn't want a bench clearing brawl on national TV.

Especially if we are getting our ass's handed to us we had better respond. This pussification of America stops now. Long live Gibby!