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Old 04-05-2014, 07:40 AM  
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:46 PM   #271
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One of these isn't like the others though.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:47 PM   #272
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One of these isn't like the others though.
I'm not talking about the players, I'm talking about the thought process. They're all 100% identical.
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We're playing semantics now. Because the cap is almost always manageable if the owner is willing to cut checks up front.
No it isn't. You can't cheat the cap. You just defer the money to a different year. Cutting checks doesn't make money disappear. Again, if they bump up against the cap several years in a row, then they are spending as much money as they can. There's no sign that's not what they are trying to do.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:48 PM   #274
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Remember, Reid said, essentially, that Smith was the QB whom he always wanted, so that is the metric for analysis.

With that said, how many teams have ever had an in-his-prime, "elite" QB (who is 30 in May) and essentially punted a season? Because that's the approach we're taking, assuming Dorsey doesn't go full anti-Pioli in the draft (read: not suck phallus).
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Have the Chiefs ever spent significant cash dollars in FA two years in a row?

After last offseason's spending spree we should have expected the Clarks to tighten up the 'ol coffers.

It's really not surprising.
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No it isn't. You can't cheat the cap. You just defer the money to a different year. Cutting checks doesn't make money disappear. Again, if they bump up against the cap several years in a row, then they are spending as much money as they can. There's no sign that's not what they are trying to do.
Signing bonuses. Renegotiated deals.

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I'm not talking about the players, I'm talking about the thought process. They're all 100% identical.
Maybe so. But again, it's really not black and white like that.


We're getting back into the x is doomed to fail because y failed.
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No it isn't. You can't cheat the cap. You just defer the money to a different year. Cutting checks doesn't make money disappear. Again, if they bump up against the cap several years in a row, then they are spending as much money as they can. There's no sign that's not what they are trying to do.
The most poorly-structured contract on the team, in terms of the cap, is Dwayne Bowe's.
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Maybe so. But again, it's really not black and white like that.


We're getting back into the x is doomed to fail because y failed.
No, no we're not. You completely misread that analogy.
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Maybe so. But again, it's really not black and white like that.


We're getting back into the x is doomed to fail because y failed.
I never said that.

I made a comment about the thought process that went into acquiring Smith. I never said on word about whether or not I thought it would work.
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Have the Chiefs ever spent significant cash dollars in FA two years in a row?

After last offseason's spending spree we should have expected the Clarks to tighten up the 'ol coffers.

It's really not surprising.
That's ridiculous. They were up against the cap last year, are up against the cap this year, and will probably end up against the cap next year too. The claim that they are cheap is ridiculous. You really think that teams are magically spending money that never counts against the cap? The only true measure of how much a team is actually spending is their yearly cap number.
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The problem with talking about football and the sack of shit that is the Chiefs is that any specific mention of player/coach/executive immediately triggers so many different connotations for posters that they are often unable to focus upon the specific content of an individual post.

They see a name, and then all mental hell breaks loose.
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That someone would question these guys? I agree. RIDICULOUS!
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Signing bonuses. Renegotiated deals.

No salary cap limit soldiers. /JWhit
It is illegal to negotiate a single dollar paid to a player that doesn't count against the cap. You are arguing about cap philosophy, not about being cheap.
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I never said that.

I made a comment about the thought process that went into acquiring Smith. I never said on word about whether or not I thought it would work.
I assumed based on previous conversations and such, that it was implied.
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