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Old 11-22-2004, 07:46 AM  
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Tonight's Game / KC Playoff's Chances / AFC Overview

Tonight's game should be a very interesting matchup. The Chiefs record, obviously, does not reflect how scary they are on offense. The battle between the Chiefs offense and the Pats defense should be very interesting indeed to see.

The Steelers' offensive line blew the Pats defense away, of course, but alot of the problems there were more technique than anything else and (according to Patriots coaches' quotes lately) correctable. The Chiefs offensive line is at least as good if not better than the Steelers, so if nothing else we'll see if our defense is able to deal well with an outstanding offensive line.

Unfortunately, it looks like the Chiefs are just playing for pride. As other threads have noted, victories yesterday by the Jets, Ravens, Colts, Broncos, Chargers and Steelers have sealed the deal for the Chiefs in terms of making the playoffs. 10-6 is the best the Chiefs can do, against a pretty tough schedule, and 10 wins won't get them a wildcard in the mighty AFC. The AFC West is also not likely to be winnable given that the Chiefs are pretty far behind not one, but two teams.

The AFC's domination of the NFC continued yesterday, and it's beyond clear that the balance of power that used to favor the NFC in the 80s, etc. is now clearly with the AFC. The Rams have 5 losses, 3 of which are to AFC East teams (including the cellar dwelling Dolphins and Bills). The Iggles were utterly crushed by the Steelers for their only loss, and squeaked by the Ravens by a 15-10 score, at home. The Colts only losses have come to AFC Teams, while they have beaten all of their NFC opponents, which includes the best the NFC North has to offer (Green Bay and Minnesota). The Patriots have steamrolled St. Louis and Seattle, beat Arizona in AZ comfortably, and have only the Niners left to play. Pittsburgh's only loss, of course, came to division rival Baltimore.

The AFC wildcard will require at least 11 wins to achieve, and the battle to go to the Super Bowl from the AFC will be extremely intense. I have little doubt that whoever wins the AFC Championship game will win the Super Bowl.
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Old 11-22-2004, 08:49 AM   #16
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Chief's will win 6 in a row, before losing to SD the last game of the year, to finish 9-7 and out of the playoffs.

Steelers vs. Patriots for NFC Championship; Steelers vs. Eagles in Superbowl....Eagles win their first Superbowl.

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Old 11-22-2004, 08:54 AM   #17
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Wow!! Way to go out on a limb!!
Someone had to do it...I would have had more if I had broken down game film from last week, but I started on a 12 pack and lost interest.
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Old 11-22-2004, 08:54 AM   #18
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Old 11-22-2004, 08:57 AM   #19
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You guys are WAAYYYYYY under estimating the Chiefs wild-card chances IF we go 10-6. We would hold tiebreaker advantages over all other WC teams at 10-6 except Jacksonville since we lost to them straight up. There is a chance that all the wild card teams will have records of 11-5 or better, but that is pretty unlikely too. Some teams are going to drop some games that they "should" win. It happens every year.

In summary, IF we go 10-6 we have a 53% chance of winning the division. IF we go 10-6 and don't win the division, we have a 62% chance of making a wild card. Overall odds of making the playoffs are 82%.

The problem is there is NO WAY, ZERO chance that this team will win the rest of their games. I'm an OFFICIAL doubter.
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Old 11-22-2004, 09:05 AM   #20
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Fine, but with Holmes out, it changes the dynamic.
Excuses, excuses. I've got BOTH starting cornerbacks out (including Ty Law, who is excellent in run support for a CB), so playing tight man coverage while having 8 in the box to stop the run game isn't a very appealing option.

I agree that Holmes/Blaylock is a bigger swing in your run game than Law/Samuel is to our run defense, but if you guys can run for Blaylock can run for 185 against whomever it was, he doesn't suck.
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Old 11-22-2004, 09:06 AM   #21
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Excuses, excuses. I've got BOTH starting cornerbacks out (including Ty Law, who is excellent in run support for a CB), so playing tight man coverage while having 8 in the box to stop the run game isn't a very appealing option.

I agree that Holmes/Blaylock is a bigger swing in your run game than Law/Samuel is to our run defense, but if you guys can run for Blaylock can run for 185 against whomever it was, he doesn't suck.
Im not making excuses and NO is not NE.
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Old 11-22-2004, 09:07 AM   #22
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Just be here tomorrow to take your lumps bitch
How could I miss crowing about the thrashing you're about to receive?

'course if I really wanted to be mean I'd point out that win or lose, the Pats are 99% likely to go to the playoffs, while win or lose, the Chiefs are 99% unlikely to go, but that's just not nice.

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Old 11-22-2004, 09:14 AM   #23
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You guys are WAAYYYYYY under estimating the Chiefs wild-card chances IF we go 10-6. We would hold tiebreaker advantages over all other WC teams at 10-6 except Jacksonville since we lost to them straight up. There is a chance that all the wild card teams will have records of 11-5 or better, but that is pretty unlikely too. Some teams are going to drop some games that they "should" win. It happens every year.

In summary, IF we go 10-6 we have a 53% chance of winning the division. IF we go 10-6 and don't win the division, we have a 62% chance of making a wild card. Overall odds of making the playoffs are 82%.

The problem is there is NO WAY, ZERO chance that this team will win the rest of their games. I'm an OFFICIAL doubter.
The last sentence there is the key one. You've got 7 games left, 3 of which are on the road. You have NE (8-1), Dungver (7-3), SD (x2)(7-3) and Tits at Titland (not as good as last year but no easy win). I just don't see you running that table.
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Old 11-22-2004, 09:15 AM   #24
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Im not making excuses and NO is not NE.
I thought NE was not KC?
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Old 11-22-2004, 09:16 AM   #25
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I have this feeling that the Chiefs will so utterly destroy the Patriots that their franchise will fold. That will move the Jets up to that playoff spot, thereby opening up another wild card slot that will be reserved for the Chiefs via a special league vote that will state that the Chiefs are simply too good to be denied the playoffs.

It's just a hunch right now, though.
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How could I miss crowing about the thrashing you're about to receive?

'course if I really wanted to be mean I'd point out that win or lose, the Pats are 99% likely to go to the playoffs, while win or lose, the Chiefs are 99% unlikely to go, but that's just not nice.

Quit trying to change the subject
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I would proudly support a KC win tonight... for many reasons. It would help DEN in their quest for better positioning in the playoffs, should they advance. And, it would pump up the spirit of this board... this place sucks when you guys are down and out.
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Old 11-22-2004, 09:23 AM   #28
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I would proudly support a KC win tonight... for many reasons. It would help DEN in their quest for better positioning in the playoffs, should they advance. And, it would pump up the spirit of this board... this place sucks when you guys are down and out.

Losing loves misery .... Our rivals love it. Merry X-mas Brad !
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The last sentence there is the key one. You've got 7 games left, 3 of which are on the road. You have NE (8-1), Dungver (7-3), SD (x2)(7-3) and Tits at Titland (not as good as last year but no easy win). I just don't see you running that table.

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And, it would pump up the spirit of this board... this place sucks when you guys are down and out.
What are you talking about? It's been like a little family reunion with the fans that enjoy it when the team loses suddenly found their keyboards again.
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