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Old 04-19-2005, 10:46 AM   #1
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I just hope we don't draft him. He's gonna be a huge bust.
He's definitely a possibilty of being a bust, but proclaiming it as fact is a bit premature don't you think?
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Old 04-19-2005, 11:02 AM   #2
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We're not going to draft a defensive end in the first round. That would mean we would carry 5 DE's - Hicks, Allen, Hall, and Wilkerson. If we cut Wilkerson, that would be a mistake. All he needs playing time.

There are a couple of exceptions, but if we take anything other than linebacker or corner in the first, I will be pissed.
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Old 04-19-2005, 11:06 AM   #3
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We're not going to draft a defensive end in the first round. That would mean we would carry 5 DE's - Hicks, Allen, Hall, and Wilkerson. If we cut Wilkerson, that would be a mistake. All he needs playing time.

There are a couple of exceptions, but if we take anything other than linebacker or corner in the first, I will be pissed.
I think you are probably right; that's why I think we're more likely to go OLB/CB/WR....with BAA deciding which in each round, for our first three picks.
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Old 04-19-2005, 11:36 AM   #4
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An old geezer's thoughts on the Chief's draft process. First of all, we have to trade that 2nd for Surtain. He's worth it and I really don't think Miami would accept our 4th this year and another pick in next year's draft. Would you trade Larry Johnson for Miami's 4th round pick this year and a 3rd or 4th next year. (just an example). I sure as hell wouldn't, and Surtain is worth more that Johnson.

If we aquire Surtain, I don't think we will pick a CB in the first round. The CB's are plentiful this year and the Chiefs can address their need for a nickleback in the 3rd or 4th round. I think the Chiefs will do everything they can to trade down with their #1 to aquire another high pick. With their two high picks they would hope to select either Thomas Davis (who I am beginning to think is the best possibility for a WSLB this year ) or Kevin Burnett; and a DE such as David Pollack or Matt Roth.

If they stay put at #15 I think the only logical choice would be Erasmus James..........or if they did not aquire Surtain; they would have to draft DB - most likely Rogers.

There is quality depth at DE and CB this year in the draft. I don't think there is a LB or DT worth our #15 pick.

(This is of course assuming that Derrick Johnson is long gone by the time we pick)
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Old 04-19-2005, 11:43 AM   #5
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There are a couple of exceptions, but if we take anything other than linebacker or corner in the first, I will be pissed.
Ditto...
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Old 04-19-2005, 01:00 PM   #6
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He's definitely a possibilty of being a bust, but proclaiming it as fact is a bit premature don't you think?
I've watched him his entire college career. Never have I been more sure of "bustdom".

He's prototypically lazy, disappearing for drives at a time. He's got a strange combination of too much height and not enough weight.

And to top it all off, he's fragile.
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Old 04-19-2005, 05:44 PM   #7
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I've watched him his entire college career. Never have I been more sure of "bustdom".

He's prototypically lazy, disappearing for drives at a time. He's got a strange combination of too much height and not enough weight.

And to top it all off, he's fragile.
Like I said earlier according to Cook it's a moot point anyway, however James could also turn into a good player. I agree, he has bust written all over him, but that doesn't mean he is a bust just yet. I think he goes in the 2nd round or late first just for the record. Calling him a bust before he's even played a down, is only seeing the bust potential, than both sides of the coin.
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Old 04-19-2005, 05:45 PM   #8
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Like I said earlier according to Cook it's a moot point anyway, however James could also turn into a good player. I agree, he has bust written all over him, but that doesn't mean he is a bust just yet. I think he goes in the 2nd round or late first just for the record. Calling him a bust before he's even played a down, is only seeing the bust potential, than both sides of the coin.
Maybe Carl has a thing for James and will override our scouting staff so he won't shatter his reputation.
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:41 AM   #9
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I actually saw some game footage of him yesterday from the NFL Draft coverage on ESPN that I taped... he is REALLY good with his hands... and he has the ability to get the Tackle off balance..

he's not in my top 8 that i would like us to get, but he's a player if he stays healthy
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:19 AM   #10
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Of course the experts think we will draft James. He is the most likely player that will be available to us to go bust. Aside from the injury issues, he has been cited for not playing hard all the time and having a lack of leverage to fight off blocks. We'll fool them. For the first time since '97, our first round pick is going to be worth a damn.
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:45 AM   #11
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:49 AM   #12
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Of course we will, he's a Holliday/Hicks clone.
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:55 AM   #13
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I doubt it, but I'd wait and see what he does in his rookie season before I complained about it.
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Old 04-19-2005, 09:56 AM   #14
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Now how exactly do we know James is a bust? the guy hasn't even played a down in the NFL, and people on this board are calling him a bust?

I sure wouldn't mind if the chiefs drafted a DE in the first round...Pollack would be my first choice, then James. James is in my top 10 of players I want the Chiefs to draft. Eric Hicks isn't exactly the PLAYER on this defense...Any upgrade we can get over him I'd be pleased.
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:09 AM   #15
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My problem isn't with James or any DE available for that matter.

It all comes down to how the draft evolves, but I think that drafting a CB or LB with #15 is more logical.

Of the three units on D, I would argue that D-line had the most talent, depth and productivity last year. That's only improved with the addition of Carlos Hall and a year of experience for Siavii.

Granted, this is kind of like saying of all the sucky units on defense, the D-line is the best, but that's the wonder that is the Chiefs defense.
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