Fav old-school hard rock outfit - Page 2

ZepSinger · 01-21-2006, 02:02 PM

To qualify, band must have been in existence by the late-70's(no 80's hair metal bands)...

**Reaper16** · 01-23-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

Trying to put every genre of rock music in a bubble will just kill it.
oops nevermind its already dead.

That's just it, though. Metal is not a subgenre of rock. Structurally and sonically, it's a seperate entity that takes in just as much from Jazz and Blues as it does Rock (and combines its influences with a lot of speed and distortion).

**Nzoner** · 01-23-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Aerosmith is a sellout, they should not even be on the list.

Old school Aerosmith was no sellout,their debut album and Get Your Wings are excellent,in fact,anything up through Draw The Line works for me.

MOhillbilly · 01-23-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

That's just it, though. Metal is not a subgenre of rock. Structurally and sonically, it's a seperate entity that takes in just as much from Jazz and Blues as it does Rock (and combines its influences with a lot of speed and distortion).

im gonna call it Rock & Roll.

Sub genres kill music- see punkrock & Metal.

**Reaper16** · 01-23-2006, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

Sub genres kill music- see punkrock & Metal.

I don't get what you mean by this.

MOhillbilly · 01-23-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

I don't get what you mean by this.

I guess it means that if you think about the really ground breaking bands and LPs i doubt if they were trying to put every little "genre" of music under a microscope when they cut that mind blowing LP.

And when bands try to find or play to a niche they really get away from what Rock n Roll is all about.

HC_Chief · 01-23-2006, 12:32 PM

How in the f$^% am I the only one who voted for Sabbath?

BLACK SABBATH!

MOhillbilly · 01-23-2006, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

How in the f$^% am I the only one who voted for Sabbath?

BLACK SABBATH!

Did you like Sabbath w/ Dio or any of the other goofball singers in the 80s?

htismaqe · 01-23-2006, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

How in the f$^% am I the only one who voted for Sabbath?

BLACK SABBATH!

I would have voted for Sabbath had there not been an "other" option.

But there's just no way I couldn't vote for Motorhead...

htismaqe · 01-23-2006, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner 338

Old school Aerosmith was no sellout,their debut album and Get Your Wings are excellent,in fact,anything up through Draw The Line works for me.

I mentioned it earlier..."Done with Mirrors" was the end of Aerosmith...

**Reaper16** · 01-23-2006, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

I guess it means that if you think about the really ground breaking bands and LPs i doubt if they were trying to put every little "genre" of music under a microscope when they cut that mind blowing LP.

And when bands try to find or play to a niche they really get away from what Rock n Roll is all about.

I can't disagree with this.

Though I still maintain that metal is a seperate genre of music from rock and roll completely. Punk is a devolution of rock and roll, but metal is its own beast with very very distinct subgenres of its own.

I agree that the groundbreaking bands don't say "Hey, we're going to dissect multiple genres and combine them into something new." It's a natural process.

But me saying that, say, Iron Maiden is a metal band and not a hard rock band is like me saying that an apple is a fruit and not a vegetable. Iron Maiden has all of the charactersitics of being a metal band and not a hard rock band.

**Reaper16** · 01-23-2006, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

How in the f$^% am I the only one who voted for Sabbath?

BLACK SABBATH!

If they were hard rock, I would have voted for them in this poll. Amazing band.

And yes, I myself happen to like Dio's work with Sabbath. "Heaven and Hell" is a great record. Dio's time with Sabbath will always be underrated.

**Reaper16** · 01-23-2006, 12:49 PM

Oh, and I apologize for sounding like an elitist a**face when it comes to metal.

There are so many misconceptions about the genre, and I cannot resist myself when the opportunity to spread metal education arises.

MOhillbilly · 01-23-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

I can't disagree with this.

Though I still maintain that metal is a seperate genre of music from rock and roll completely. Punk is a devolution of rock and roll, but metal is its own beast with very very distinct subgenres of its own.

I agree that the groundbreaking bands don't say "Hey, we're going to dissect multiple genres and combine them into something new." It's a natural process.

But me saying that, say, Iron Maiden is a metal band and not a hard rock band is like me saying that an apple is a fruit and not a vegetable. Iron Maiden has all of the charactersitics of being a metal band and not a hard rock band.

What about when DRI did "crossover" or Cro Mags did "best wishes"?

Punk rock isnt the de-evolution of rock and roll its was the evolution.

same as Grunge was the semi-evolution of metal.
and i dont have a problem w/ genres its sub-genres that kill a musical movement.

HC_Chief · 01-23-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

Did you like Sabbath w/ Dio or any of the other goofball singers in the 80s?

Nope.... strictly 70s Sabbath w/ Ozzy.

I liked Dio as well, but he was a bit theatrical. I gave him a nickname that always stuck with my friends: satanic midget

"You're the last in line! Ahhhhhhhhh, yeah!" lol

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

But there's just no way I couldn't vote for Motorhead...

Was Motorhead around in the 70s? They're an 80s band for me. Heh, mmmmmmMoterhead rules with an iron fist!

My FAVORITE 70s "hard rock" band = Sex Pistols. Nevermind the Bollocks is brilliant. Along with Sabbath, they have to be the most influential bands of all time.

Zepplin is amazing, but they didn't spark new offshoots of R&R (metal & punk)

htismaqe · 01-23-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

Did you like Sabbath w/ Dio or any of the other goofball singers in the 80s?

It's pretty funny, me and my band mates in high school used to laugh about what we called "Ritchie Blackmore inbreeding"...

Ian Gillian has been in and out of Deep Purple since the beginning. He worked with Blackmore for many years. He was also in post-Ozzy Sabbath, replacing Ronnie James Dio in 1983.

Ronnie James Dio was in Rainbow, with Blackmore, and replaced Ozzy in Sabbath.

Graham Bonnett, who replaced Dio in Rainbow went on to play with Yngwie Malmsteen in Alcatrazz, and was replaced when Alcatrazz split up by Joe Lynn Turner, who eventually left Malmsteen's band to take a gig with Deep Purple and Richie Blackmore.

And that's just what I can remember off the top of my head.

View Poll Results: Fave Old-School Hard Rock Outfit
Scorpions	1	4.17%
AC/DC	4	16.67%
Black Sabbath	2	8.33%
Van Halen	4	16.67%
Led Zeppelin	6	25.00%
Judas Priest	1	4.17%
KISS	1	4.17%
Aerosmith	1	4.17%
Deep Purple	0	0%
Other	4	16.67%
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