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Old 07-24-2006, 05:12 AM   #1
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The FA DTs are NOT better in shoring up the running D.

Bell needs to be use to his strength. Blitzing. but still doesn't pan out.

Top CBs will give Allen, Hali the extra 0.5-1 sec to get to the QB. The other team stops throwing as much because they can still run on us.
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:33 AM   #2
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:00 AM   #3
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My biggest worry for you guys is front 7. Both pressure on QB and run defense.

If you guys have that straightened out, you're seriously in the running for the prize.
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:05 AM   #4
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My biggest worry for you guys is front 7. Both pressure on QB and run defense.

If you guys have that straightened out, you're seriously in the running for the prize.
I'm not at all worried about the front seven...



...its the damn front four that scare me.
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:11 AM   #5
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I'm not at all worried about the front seven...



...its the damn front four that scare me.
yup...we have some potential at DE, but our DTs a basically a laughing stock...
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:22 AM   #6
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yup...we have some potential at DE, but our DTs a basically a laughing stock...
I'm hoping that the DL coach we got in the offseason can really whip these guys into shape, he does seem to have a pretty good history of getting guys to play well, at least I believe so.

Either way, I think Mitchel and DJ are pretty damn good, and we have some competition at the other spot.
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Old 07-24-2006, 08:24 AM   #7
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If Roaf goes down we suck. We don't have anyone that can play the blind side well enough. We don't need to be a top 5 defense. We just need a number around 10 and keep our offense were it was. We do that and we end up in the bowl. If our defense stays in the 20's we are 50/50 to even get into the playoffs.
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:52 PM   #8
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I'm hoping that the DL coach we got in the offseason can really whip these guys into shape, he does seem to have a pretty good history of getting guys to play well, at least I believe so.

Either way, I think Mitchel and DJ are pretty damn good, and we have some competition at the other spot.
I think the problem with that is......of the coaches we took from Buffalo the LB coach looks like the better one......
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Old 07-24-2006, 08:50 AM   #9
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yup...we have some potential at DE, but our DTs a basically a laughing stock...
We don't know what we have at DT. There are at least 3 guys that will contend for time at the DT position this year that weren't on the field for us last year.

It's not a stretch of the imagination to think that we may see significant improvement at the DT position by replacing guys like Dalton, Siavii, Browning, and Wilkerson.

It's optimistic but not unreasonable to think this D can make a big stride this year. Derrick Johnson should only get better, while Allen and Mitchell are just hitting their prime. We are the strongest at CB that we've been in a decade, having upgraded both the #2 CB and nickelback (assuming Law signs). Every position that I would label a "weak point" from last year has at least a few new faces competing for the job.

We were about 10 plays away from being a top ten defense last year. I don't think it's a pipedream to think the new guys we brought in could make the difference.
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Old 07-24-2006, 10:33 AM   #10
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We don't know what we have at DT. There are at least 3 guys that will contend for time at the DT position this year that weren't on the field for us last year.

It's not a stretch of the imagination to think that we may see significant improvement at the DT position by replacing guys like Dalton, Siavii, Browning, and Wilkerson.

It's optimistic but not unreasonable to think this D can make a big stride this year. Derrick Johnson should only get better, while Allen and Mitchell are just hitting their prime. We are the strongest at CB that we've been in a decade, having upgraded both the #2 CB and nickelback (assuming Law signs). Every position that I would label a "weak point" from last year has at least a few new faces competing for the job.

We were about 10 plays away from being a top ten defense last year. I don't think it's a pipedream to think the new guys we brought in could make the difference.
Agreed...

The new faces at DT, Hali at DE
Solid CBs starting and backup Surtain,Law, Walls...Battle
SS Knight/Pollard
FS either Pollard/Wesley/Battle

Better LB Play from Bell, DJ, Mitchell

NEW Coaches...

Just the infusion of new players. give me very optomistic hope.
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Old 07-24-2006, 10:56 AM   #11
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We don't know what we have at DT. There are at least 3 guys that will contend for time at the DT position this year that weren't on the field for us last year.

It's not a stretch of the imagination to think that we may see significant improvement at the DT position by replacing guys like Dalton, Siavii, Browning, and Wilkerson.

It's optimistic but not unreasonable to think this D can make a big stride this year. Derrick Johnson should only get better, while Allen and Mitchell are just hitting their prime. We are the strongest at CB that we've been in a decade, having upgraded both the #2 CB and nickelback (assuming Law signs). Every position that I would label a "weak point" from last year has at least a few new faces competing for the job.

We were about 10 plays away from being a top ten defense last year. I don't think it's a pipedream to think the new guys we brought in could make the difference.
I agree with the gist of your post...I'm hopeful for the D, namely because I think we have enough talent now that not even Gunther can screw it up.

I don't agree with the 10 plays away comment. We own those plays. And collapases like Philly/Giants were about more than single plays. They were about scheme and talent. Coaching is still a ?? to me.

If our new DTs play at even a good-to-average level that will give us depth we didn't have. I'll take it as a sign that we're better at the position when Siavii gets cut.
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:20 PM   #12
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I'm not at all worried about the front seven...



...its the damn front four that scare me.

Hali and Allen scare you? YOu are the only person that I know who has said that.
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:27 PM   #13
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Hali and Allen scare you? YOu are the only person that I know who has said that.
I haven't seen Hali do anything yet, and he hasn't even taken Hicks position yet either. I can't say that I'm not excited to see him play, but he hasn't even played a preseason game in the NFL yet.

Mostly it was a comment that I'm content with out LB's.
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:46 PM   #14
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Apparently Law was the final piece to the puzzle and now that our D is that much better for this year, our offense will go down the shitter.

That could very well occur due to lack of depth. A team needs 2 good quarterbacks and 2 good running backs. A fill-in running back can always be found but this football team doesn't have a back-up at QB.
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Basically it is going to come down to Roaf staying healthy. I believe we have enough decent, young WR along with Kennison and Gonzo to keep the Offense movine. But you take out Roaf and the passing O seems to fall apart.
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