Is this kind of Draft repeatable?

[Direckshun]

Is there any chance we can have this kind of a Draft effort from the Chiefs every year?

What would you examine the odds as being?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

The second day happened. I have loved every single pick from the second day, save Merritt. I think it will give us the depth we need for years.

I still contend the Albert pick was questionable. I would have taken Otah and kept our additional 5th. But if Albert starts at LT on day one, I'm wrong immediately. If Albert's RT and they eventually work him in at LT and he's good, I'm wrong. Flowers I really wasn't happy about because the Facebook stupidity showed immensely poor judgment that could come back to haunt this team. But if he keeps his nose clean, it's possible that we had a great first day as well. I just would have opted for Groves or Hardy.

Fair enough. I loved our draft. Every last oz. of it. I loved Charles, and I was happy with Cottam. I have no doubt that you know more about these players than I do though. Time will tell.

[SBK]

If you can hit on your first day picks your drafts are always better than when you only hit on one or a few of the late picks.

I give this years draft a solid c+.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by SBK

If you can hit on your first day picks your drafts are always better than when you only hit on one or a few of the late picks.

I give this years draft a solid c+.

Haven't you heard this is the A+ draft

[the Talking Can]

Dorsey
Alberts
Flowers
Charles


if they're what people think they are, then we will never come close to that kind of haul in 3 rounds....

[kcchiefsus]

Originally Posted by SBK

If you can hit on your first day picks your drafts are always better than when you only hit on one or a few of the late picks.

I give this years draft a solid c+.

Huh?

A C+? Draft grades are usually somewhat in comparison to other teams in the NFL so there is no way we are a C+. If we are a C+ then every other team in the NFL is a C or below.

[SBK]

Bunch of douches around here don't get the C+ thing even after it's mentioned even in this thread.

[Pitt Gorilla]

No, I don't, but I think the Chiefs' philosophy was solid. In past years, teams would take the players we would have, likely, loved to have right before we chose. Little things like that can impact an entire draft. What if Oakland had taken Dorsey? I assume we would have traded down, but what if we had no takers? What if the run on o-linemen had started earlier or the Lions wouldn't deal? Recall the 2000 draft when the Chiefs really wanted Shawn Alexander and Seattle took him a few picks before us (we picked up SlyMo). Then, in 2004 the Seahawks, again, took Olshansky a pick ahead of us, allowing/inducing our selection of Junior Siavii (nice, huh?). In 2002, the Colts took Triplett one pick ahead of KC, and we selected Eddie Freeman. While neither pick was outstanding, it was thought that KC would take Triplett and settled for Freeman.

In each case, a pick just prior to ours really seemed to leave us scrambling. This year, that could have been Chris Williams, but the Chiefs remained calm and we fortunate to pluck Albert. If he had been off the board, I'd hate to think we would have reached for Otah or Baker.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

No, I don't, but I think the Chiefs' philosophy was solid. In past years, teams would take the players we would have, likely, loved to have right before we chose. Little things like that can impact an entire draft. What if Oakland had taken Dorsey? I assume we would have traded down, but what if we had no takers? What if the run on o-linemen had started earlier or the Lions wouldn't deal? Recall the 2000 draft when the Chiefs really wanted Shawn Alexander and Seattle took him a few picks before us (we picked up SlyMo). Then, in 2004 the Seahawks, again, took Olshansky a pick ahead of us, allowing/inducing our selection of Junior Siavii (nice, huh?). In 2002, the Colts took Triplett one pick ahead of KC, and we selected Eddie Freeman. While neither pick was outstanding, it was thought that KC would take Triplett and settled for Freeman.

In each case, a pick just prior to ours really seemed to leave us scrambling. This year, that could have been Chris Williams, but the Chiefs remained calm and we fortunate to pluck Albert. If he had been off the board, I'd hate to think we would have reached for Otah or Baker.

In the past, I don't think the Chiefs stayed qith their board.

If they had, there's now way a gut like Junior Siavii gets picked in the 2nd round.

I would think that if Albert were gone, the Chiefs, if they felt that Otah was a reach, they would have moved in a different direction.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Hoover

I think so, but as mentioned above getting both Albert and Dorsey made it a slam dunk A+ draft.

The good news is the Chiefs FO has to feel like what they did worked and worked well. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I think we will see the same effort for years to come, no matter who the HC is as long as Kuharic is here. Thus we need to make him fat and happy.

The Chiefs talked this year about how they scouted deeper and more thoroughly this year (presumably because they knew they were going to rebuild through the draft quite a while ago and because they were stockpiling picks for this draft in particular). I'd be interested to know how much more their scouting operation cost them this past year and whether or not they plan to continue to invest a similar amount in future years.

[StcChief]

When we have another near 4-12 season....but less picks let's see if they draft well in every round with only 1 pick/round.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

No, I don't, but I think the Chiefs' philosophy was solid. In past years, teams would take the players we would have, likely, loved to have right before we chose. Little things like that can impact an entire draft. What if Oakland had taken Dorsey? I assume we would have traded down, but what if we had no takers? What if the run on o-linemen had started earlier or the Lions wouldn't deal? Recall the 2000 draft when the Chiefs really wanted Shawn Alexander and Seattle took him a few picks before us (we picked up SlyMo). Then, in 2004 the Seahawks, again, took Olshansky a pick ahead of us, allowing/inducing our selection of Junior Siavii (nice, huh?). In 2002, the Colts took Triplett one pick ahead of KC, and we selected Eddie Freeman. While neither pick was outstanding, it was thought that KC would take Triplett and settled for Freeman.

In each case, a pick just prior to ours really seemed to leave us scrambling. This year, that could have been Chris Williams, but the Chiefs remained calm and we fortunate to pluck Albert. If he had been off the board, I'd hate to think we would have reached for Otah or Baker.

You make a great point, however, Olshansky went to the CHARGERS.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

You make a great point, however, Olshansky went to the CHARGERS.

You're right. It does, though, seem like Seattle took a guy just ahead of us a couple other times. I think I'm just channelling that anger.

[KCUnited]

No.

However, we don't need another draft like this to be successful. This was a cornerstone type of draft, a draft you can look back on and physically see a foundation that was layed. We mortgaged the present for the future in this draft. Hopefully we won't need 13 picks and 2 first rounders to be successful in the 5 year future.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

You're right. It does, though, seem like Seattle took a guy just ahead of us a couple other times. I think I'm just channelling that anger.

I read what you said and thought nothing of it. Probably because his college team was from the NW and they had green uniforms.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

No, I don't, but I think the Chiefs' philosophy was solid. In past years, teams would take the players we would have, likely, loved to have right before we chose. Little things like that can impact an entire draft. What if Oakland had taken Dorsey? I assume we would have traded down, but what if we had no takers? What if the run on o-linemen had started earlier or the Lions wouldn't deal? Recall the 2000 draft when the Chiefs really wanted Shawn Alexander and Seattle took him a few picks before us (we picked up SlyMo). Then, in 2004 the Seahawks, again, took Olshansky a pick ahead of us, allowing/inducing our selection of Junior Siavii (nice, huh?). In 2002, the Colts took Triplett one pick ahead of KC, and we selected Eddie Freeman. While neither pick was outstanding, it was thought that KC would take Triplett and settled for Freeman.

In each case, a pick just prior to ours really seemed to leave us scrambling. This year, that could have been Chris Williams, but the Chiefs remained calm and we fortunate to pluck Albert. If he had been off the board, I'd hate to think we would have reached for Otah or Baker.

milkman nailed it...the sorry picks you recount were a result of reaching for a position after the guy we wanted was gone...we would never have picked Charles or Morgan under DV....

sticking to your draft board is how you avoid disaster...

you need a high pick to get this much talent..but, as you said, our apparent philosophy will reward us with stronger drafts over time....something the True Fan "draft more OL!" crowd will never understand....