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Old 05-13-2008, 12:23 PM  
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OK Mr. Croyle, I've defended loyally on this forum.

It's time for you to reward me and the the rest of your defenders. I'm looking forward to reading a piece on the Star about how you have dedicated this off-season to gaining 10-15 pounds of muscle. I hope you haven't forgotten that as a necessary step for your career and gaining respect of the fans and your teammates.
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Old 05-13-2008, 04:14 PM   #16
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I don't understand all the Croyle hate. I really don't.

No pass blocking, whatsoever. Crap for receivers (Bowe notwithstanding). No running game. The most predictable OC since Billy "One Run" Smith - who had an aneurysm during the warm-ups and called the same play for the Amsterdam Admirals 40 times in a row. I mean, cut the guy some slack.

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Old 05-13-2008, 04:15 PM   #17
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I agree Frankie....Come on Brodie, show us what ya got!! Make Mecca and the others eat their words.

Please, my words never really taste very good when I have to eat them..
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Old 05-13-2008, 04:24 PM   #18
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Croyle didn't have alot of help, but he certainly didn't anything to warrant praise either. In 10 games Croyle has 6 TDs to 8 Interceptions, he also fumbled the ball 4 times and lost 3 of those 4 for turnovers. I'm all for giving the kid a shot, but he certainly doesn't look like the 2nd coming of Joe Montana at this point. We'll see, only time will tell, but I'd give him this season, than yank off the umbilical cord. Croyle needs to take major strides, he's twenty-five years old, we need to stop babying him and make him earn his keep.
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Old 05-13-2008, 04:26 PM   #19
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Croyle didn't have alot of help, but he certainly didn't anything to warrant praise either. In 10 games Croyle has 6 TDs to 8 Interceptions, he also fumbled the ball 4 times and lost 3 of those 4 for turnovers. I'm all for giving the kid a shot, but he certainly doesn't look like the 2nd coming of Joe Montana at this point. We'll see, only time will tell, but I'd give him this season, than yank off the umbilical cord. Croyle needs to take major strides, he's twenty-five years old, we need to stop babying him and make him earn his keep.
100% agreed with this assessment, Mr. BigChiefFan.

We must (and I mean must) give him some protection in the pocket, though. And a running game. The basic stuff any quarterback requires to succeed.

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Old 05-13-2008, 04:38 PM   #20
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I agree Frankie....Come on Brodie, show us what ya got!! Make Mecca and the others eat their words.

Please, my words never really taste very good when I have to eat them..
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Old 05-13-2008, 04:42 PM   #21
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Croyle didn't have alot of help, but he certainly didn't anything to warrant praise either. In 10 games Croyle has 6 TDs to 8 Interceptions, he also fumbled the ball 4 times and lost 3 of those 4 for turnovers. I'm all for giving the kid a shot, but he certainly doesn't look like the 2nd coming of Joe Montana at this point. We'll see, only time will tell, but I'd give him this season, than yank off the umbilical cord. Croyle needs to take major strides, he's twenty-five years old, we need to stop babying him and make him earn his keep.

Agreed. Honestly, If he doesnt step up, the Chiefs will lose 12-14 games and draft a QB next year. If he develops, the Chiefs will stay competive all season.

Its a win/win depending on how u look at it.
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Old 05-13-2008, 04:58 PM   #22
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Croyle didn't have alot of help, but he certainly didn't anything to warrant praise either. In 10 games Croyle has 6 TDs to 8 Interceptions, he also fumbled the ball 4 times and lost 3 of those 4 for turnovers. I'm all for giving the kid a shot, but he certainly doesn't look like the 2nd coming of Joe Montana at this point. We'll see, only time will tell, but I'd give him this season, than yank off the umbilical cord. Croyle needs to take major strides, he's twenty-five years old, we need to stop babying him and make him earn his keep.
Again, that was his first time being on the field for a period of time. If his first 10 games, if his TD/INT is almost close to each other, that's tells me that it's not a bad thing. I think the big issue is that people is knocking on him is the fact that he hasn't won a game. Well, we need to keep in mind that not ALL of it is on Brodie's shoulders. And the QB play reflects how the O-line play is. Honestly, ask yourself this. How would Montana perform behind that offensive line the Chiefs have fielded last year? Even Thigpen got KO'ed behind this line.

So, let's give him a chance to perform. If he can't perform, then the Chiefs should do the right thing, pull him about mid-season and have Thigpen play out the rest of the season. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR DAMON HUARD TO BE ON THE FIELD. PERIOD.
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Agreed. Honestly, If he doesnt step up, the Chiefs will lose 12-14 games and draft a QB next year. If he develops, the Chiefs will stay competive all season.

Its a win/win depending on how u look at it.
QB class next year sucks. That's not the answer.
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Again, that was his first time being on the field for a period of time. If his first 10 games, if his TD/INT is almost close to each other, that's tells me that it's not a bad thing. I think the big issue is that people is knocking on him is the fact that he hasn't won a game. Well, we need to keep in mind that not ALL of it is on Brodie's shoulders. And the QB play reflects how the O-line play is. Honestly, ask yourself this. How would Montana perform behind that offensive line the Chiefs have fielded last year? Even Thigpen got KO'ed behind this line.

So, let's give him a chance to perform. If he can't perform, then the Chiefs should do the right thing, pull him about mid-season and have Thigpen play out the rest of the season. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR DAMON HUARD TO BE ON THE FIELD. PERIOD.
I don't agree that Croyle's TD/INT ratio is a good thing in his first 10 starts, but like I said earlier, I think he deserves this season to prove if he is worthy or not, nothing more.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:11 PM   #25
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Agreed. Honestly, If he doesnt step up, the Chiefs will lose 12-14 games and draft a QB next year. If he develops, the Chiefs will stay competive all season.

Its a win/win depending on how u look at it.
Exactly. I'm hoping he does develop. But if he doesn't I'll be very intrigued about Stafford of Georgia (for now).
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In 10 games Croyle has 6 TDs to 8 Interceptions
Just to point it out, 2 of those picks were in that one game against the Steelers when he came up in mop-up duty. As the starter last year, he went 6:6.
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Just to point it out, 2 of those picks were in that one game against the Steelers when he came up in mop-up duty. As the starter last year, he went 6:6.
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If he just gets kelli to sleep with Herm the job will go to Brodie no questions asked.
Or we could put a new twist on an old tale and have Albert sleep with her if Brodie doesn't pan out.

The old "Reverse Roaf."
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:11 PM   #29
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Or we could put a new twist on an old tale and have Albert sleep with her if Brodie doesn't pan out.

The old "Reverse Roaf."


Reverse Roaf.

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Old 05-13-2008, 08:11 PM   #30
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I seriously believe Brodie is going to be opening some eyes about three quarters into next season. I think he's a gamer, but the o-line play must be improved for him to succeed.

It's not an excuse, it's common sense.
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