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Old 10-27-2008, 12:01 PM   #1
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One thing I really like about the game yesterday is it shows we can use the pass to set up the run. Assuming Charles gets healthy again (and the still uncertain future of Johnson), next week we could see a decent running game. All they have to truly judge Thigpen on is last week (all passing), so they will start game planning against the pass instead of lining 8 men in the box and daring us to pass. I hope this was not a fluke, not that we have to win too many games, but it is starting to be fun to watch again.
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:15 PM   #2
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One thing I really like about the game yesterday is it shows we can use the pass to set up the run. Assuming Charles gets healthy again (and the still uncertain future of Johnson), next week we could see a decent running game. All they have to truly judge Thigpen on is last week (all passing), so they will start game planning against the pass instead of lining 8 men in the box and daring us to pass. I hope this was not a fluke, not that we have to win too many games, but it is starting to be fun to watch again.
As soon as Charles and/or LJ are back, I'll bet we go right back to run, run, pass. Or in yesterdays final series, run, run, run.
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Old 10-27-2008, 01:42 PM   #3
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Another somewhat neglected aspect of the game was the fact that the defense surrendered 420 yards to the Jets. So far, we've given up ...

Patriots ... 338 yards
Raiders ... 355 yards
Goats ... 446 yards
Falcons ... 378 yards
Panthers ... 441 yards
Tacks ... 455 yards

That's an average of about 404 or so yards per game and places us at 31st in the league. On top of that, we're allowing 3rd down conversions on about 49% of the attempts. That's also 31st in the league. It seems like we've been focusing and working a little too long on the defense to be performing at that level.

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Old 10-27-2008, 02:33 PM   #4
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I've been thinking ever since the game yesterday that someone up the chain must have told Herm to ease up his control on playcalling. Didn't sound like Herm was giving any input until the 3 runs up the middle to take time off the clock in the 4th. It was almost like the O was aggressive yesterday.
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:55 PM   #5
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I've been thinking ever since the game yesterday that someone up the chain must have told Herm to ease up his control on playcalling. Didn't sound like Herm was giving any input until the 3 runs up the middle to take time off the clock in the 4th. It was almost like the O was aggressive yesterday.
Can't blame Herm, we were only one score away from "ARENA BALL" status....
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:04 PM   #6
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Can't blame Herm, we were only one score away from "ARENA BALL" status....

Glad we didn't get into Arena Ball, even if the Jets did!
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:45 PM   #7
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Another somewhat neglected aspect of the game was the fact that the defense surrendered 420 yards to the Jets. So far, we've given up ...

Patriots ... 338 yards
Raiders ... 355 yards
Goats ... 446 yards
Falcons ... 378 yards
Panthers ... 441 yards
Tacks ... 455 yards

That's an average of about 404 or so yards per game and places us at 31st in the league. On top of that, we're allowing 3rd down conversions on about 49% of the attempts. That's also 31st in the league. It seems like we've been focusing and working a little too long on the defense to be performing at that level.

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Quit Doubting Herm's Defensive accumen. If it weren't for Herm just imagine how bad this defense would really be.
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:09 PM   #8
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Quit Doubting Herm's Defensive accumen. If it weren't for Herm just imagine how bad this defense would really be.
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:56 PM   #9
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Quit Doubting Herm's Defensive accumen. If it weren't for Herm just imagine how bad this defense would really be.

Heh, if you take a look at 2002 and 2003 you will see the horrible DC we had then actually had better stats with his D than the D we have today - and back then we had an O that scored waaaayyyyy too quick, causing the D to spend so much time on the field that they got tired.
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:58 PM   #10
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Quit Doubting Herm's Defensive accumen. If it weren't for Herm just imagine how bad this defense would really be.
Herm is making Robinson look like Buddy Ryan...
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Quit Doubting Herm's Defensive accumen. If it weren't for Herm just imagine how bad this defense would really be.
I can blame Herm. The cover 2 is a horrible system at stopping the run. Except for the SB run, the Colts D has been mediocre to bad. Hank Stram said that "if you cannot stop the run, you cannot win." The fact that he has Gunther Cunningham running a scheme he doesn't have familiarity with...
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:40 PM   #12
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Another somewhat neglected aspect of the game was the fact that the defense surrendered 420 yards to the Jets. So far, we've given up ...

Patriots ... 338 yards
Raiders ... 355 yards
Goats ... 446 yards
Falcons ... 378 yards
Panthers ... 441 yards
Tacks ... 455 yards

That's an average of about 404 or so yards per game and places us at 31st in the league. On top of that, we're allowing 3rd down conversions on about 49% of the attempts. That's also 31st in the league. It seems like we've been focusing and working a little too long on the defense to be performing at that level.

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The truly frightening thing about those numbers is how much of it is on the ground while other teams are playing with a lead.
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Old 10-28-2008, 12:25 AM   #13
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The truly frightening thing about those numbers is how much of it is on the ground while other teams are playing with a lead.
Ouch. Good point, Mr. el borracho, although painful.

That hadn't occurred to me in that way, which makes it all the more fascinating. We must be truly horrible. How can that be? We've drafted like crazy on defense, Herm's a defense first guy, and he came into KC with the express and stated goal of improving the D. What in the name of Mr. Iowanian's sasquatch suit itch is happening?

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Ouch. Good point, Mr. el borracho, although painful.

That hadn't occurred to me in that way, which makes it all the more fascinating. We must be truly horrible. How can that be? We've drafted like crazy on defense, Herm's a defense first guy, and he came into KC with the express and stated goal of improving the D. What in the name of Mr. Iowanian's sasquatch suit itch is happening?

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Herm isnt the draft guru, defense fixer that many folks around here sucked him off to be when he arrived...

Herm is nothing more that an over glorified scout that is living off his TB years where obviously Dungy was the real talent scout and made this ficticious figure in Herm....
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:02 PM   #15
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It's really kind of remarkable. We have gotten steadily worse on defense even after drafting heavily into that side of the ball, bringing in countless FA linebackers, and hiring an HC who, ostensibly, is a defensive expert.

I can sort of understand how Herm was able to completely dismantle our record-setting offense in just two short years, but our defense wasn't that great to begin with. It takes real commitment and effort to make it actually worse. Impressive by any standard.

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