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Old 01-18-2009, 08:50 PM  
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Another Mock Draft: Detroit Lions-style

http://sidelionreport.com/2009/01/17...on-to-the-max/

Don’t be shocked that I have the Lions taking a QB. I don’t agree with it or think its a good idea, I have entire posts on that. But it’s probably going to go down like that. Maybe we’ll get lucky and they’ll stick with defense. It doesn’t matter who, just make sure they’re good. We have so many issues with talent that need to be addressed, we need to acquire players in bulk and replace well over half the roster.

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1Detroit Lions
(0-16)
Matt Stafford QB (Georgia) -
This will be met with a resounding *thud* as Lions Fans that know a thing or two about football will smack themselves on the forehand with the [face_palm] emotion. D’oh! We will scream “You’re supposed to take Andre Smith you morons!” and casual, typical Detroit fans will go to the team website and buy a “Stafford” Jersey.

2St. Louis Rams
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Andre Smith OT (Ala’bamy) -
Laughing hysterically, the Rams will wonder what the hell the Lions are doing, skip up the steps to the podium and do a cartwheel back to the table while the GM breaks open a bottle of decent tequila. They can finish the draft drunk, as there is no possibility of a ‘bad draft’ after being given this gift.

3Kansas City Chiefs
(2-14)
Mark Sanchez QB (USC Trojans) -
This pick will be delivered with a broken pen, so the ‘Z’ on the card will be all blotchy and runny. Pioli is going to be pissed. He probably wanted Stafford, but Sanchez will have to do. The Chiefs have a legitimate need for a passer to develop, and Sanchez is a late entry and under developed; QB’s that leave early don’t often do that well, but Pioli is going to have a system in place in a few years and frankly, the team isn’t as bad as that record. Or he’ll draft Curry or one of the solid tackles in this draft.

4Seattle Seahawks
(4-12)
Micheal Crabtree WR (Texas Tech)
The ‘hawks will be addressing a serious need and this kid is seriously talented.

5Cleveland Browns
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Aaron Curry ILB (Wake Forest) -
With a new coach that wants to run the 3-4, the Browns will be looking to shore up the linebackers. Shaun Rogers will haze the rookie by eating all of his cake and ice cream during team ‘cake and ice cream unity’ parties.

6Cincinnati Bengals
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Michael Oher OT (Ole Miss) -
With change needed, the Bengals aren’t as clueless as the Lions and will select the next best Tackle. With a sizeable line, your skill positions will flourish and you will make the playoffs. However, the Lions will sell more ‘Stafford’ jerseys than ‘Oher’ jerseys.

7Oakland Raiders
(5-11)
Jeremy Maclin WR (Miss’ura) -
With Crabtree gone, the Raiders will be itching to make yet another bad decision. Russel needs someone to throw to, right? Then McFadden will run all over the place. Right. They are the Millen Lions of the West Coast. Kalimba Edwards will welcome the rookie with cookie crumbs in his athletic supporter.

8Jacksonville Jaguars
(5-11)
Eugene Monroe OT (Virginia) -
With Gerard running like a scared man all season long (except for his carving up of the Detroit Lions in that 40 something to whatever murderfest at Ford Field, the Jags will look to shore up their offense line.

9Green Bay Packers
(6-10)
Malcolm Jenkins CB (Ohio State) -
Woodson is getting old at 33 and stopping the pass seemed to be an issue for the cheese heads. The Packer nation will cheer and spill cheese and beer all over the clothes they wear, purchased from the tractor supply store.

10San Francisco 49ers
(7-9)
Aaron Maybin DE
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Mike Singletary is the new boss and he is going to want a nasty, vicious pass rush. This young man will need some development, but his sacking skills will do well under a Singletary Defensive scheme and will likely look better in a suit with white sneakers on.

11Buffalo Bills
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Brian Orakpo DE (Texas) -
The Bills couldn’t make enough pressure on opposing QB’s. With Curry snatched up, this is the best choice on the board for them. The ghost of Thurman Thomas will cause a fumble of the draft card. Bill’s fans know how that goes on the big day.

12Denver Broncos
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Rey Maualuga ILB (USC Trojans) -
What was Denvers problem this year? They experienced a late season skid because they couldn’t stop the run. The kid with the name that’s hard to spell will fall into their hands and he will be managed by the guy that wore the silly suits on the side line. Though, I do admit, despite not really fitting in, Nolan looked pretty snappy.

13Washington Redskins
(8-8)
Jason Smith OT (Baylor) -
It will be talked about that Smith has fallen this far and the Skins will gobble him up. Mark Ripen will have a smug sense of self satisfaction that day as someone might know who he is. That’s a joke people… I’m kidding around Mark! Nobody knows who you are, they are googling it right now.

14New Orleans Saints
(8-8)
James Laurinaitis ILB (Ohio State)

Saints may have trouble keeping Jonathan Vilma and they need to shore up their Linebackers anyway.

15Houston Texans
(8-8)
Vantae Davis CB (Illinois) -

The Texans had a great deal of trouble stopping other teams in the air this year, they even got stuck in a shootout with the Lions (briefly), this player will fall into their hands.


16New York Jets
(9-7)
Everette Brown DE (Florida State) -
With the new title of merely “Second Most Questionable Firing” now deemed upon them in the wake of the Gruden firing, the Jets will be looking to beef up their pass rush.

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Old 01-19-2009, 01:44 PM   #16
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Yep. Crabtree is the shit. We got the best player in the last draft, and we will have a chance at the best player in this draft.
What will Pioli do?
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:52 PM   #17
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I'm on a huge Crabtree kick lately.

I think watching the Cardinals has made me loopy.
You know, if anyone would have suggested three weeks ago that the Chiefs take Crabtree, people would have thought that person was crazy.

But after watching Fitzgerald do what he has done, some minds are changing on what an elite WR can do for a team. The guy is otherwordly and can change the outcome of a game. Even more so than Moss can, due to Fitz's ability to break tackles and make mind-blowing catches (his willingness to block in the run game is a huge plus as well).

The thing is, though, a stud WR won't mean much if he can't get the ball due to a piss-poor Oline or questionable QB.

IMHO, the Chiefs are in an incredibly tough place -- they need upgrades across the board, but still need to get players of value who can contribute relatively soon. So they're going to have to choose whether or not they draft for need (not a great idea, IMHO), or just take the best players available regardless.

Of course, all of this assumes they don't trade down, which could happen if KC finds someone desperate enough willing to do so. And at this point, those odds are slim.

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Old 01-19-2009, 02:11 PM   #18
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You know, if anyone would have suggested three weeks ago that the Chiefs take Crabtree, people would have thought that person was crazy.

But after watching Fitzgerald do what he has done, some minds are changing on what an elite WR can do for a team. The guy is otherwordly and can change the outcome of a game. Even more so than Moss can, due to Fitz's ability to break tackles and make mind-blowing catches (his willingness to block in the run game is a huge plus as well).

The thing is, though, a stud WR won't mean much if he can't get the ball due to a piss-poor Oline or questionable QB.

IMHO, the Chiefs are in an incredibly tough place -- they need upgrades across the board, but still need to get players of value who can contribute relatively soon. So they're going to have to choose whether or not they draft for need (not a great idea, IMHO), or just take the best players available regardless.

Of course, all of this assumes they don't trade down, which could happen if KC finds someone desperate enough willing to do so. And at this point, those odds are slim.

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Old 01-19-2009, 02:49 PM   #19
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I think everyone can agree that it would be best for the Chiefs to trade down.
Oh hell yes.

The issue is finding a team willing to trade with KC, and I'm just not so sure there's an player at the top of the draft another team wants badly enough to do so.

What team needs a receiver so bad they'd trade up for Crabtree? What about one of the O linemen -- any team out there in such need they'd be willing to pay what it would take to move up to #3 (other than KC)? None of the defensive players seem ranked that high, so what team would make a deal to make a reach?

I'm not even being sarcastic -- what teams could we consider as possible trade-up/trade-down partners?

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Old 01-19-2009, 03:23 PM   #20
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What team needs a receiver so bad they'd trade up for Crabtree?
I've wondered about Cinci. All indications are that Ocho-Cinco and Housh will both be gone. Cinci may want to get up in front of Seattle to get Crabtree.
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Old 01-19-2009, 03:26 PM   #21
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:13 PM   #22
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I think everyone can agree that it would be best for the Chiefs to trade down.
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:17 PM   #23
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I don't think it's in the best interest to trade down either.

I think if Pioli wants Crabtree, he won't get him trading out of the 3. Seattle is going to need a WR badly.
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:21 PM   #24
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I don't think Crabtree is that great of a prospect....he's not the physical freak of a Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson...

He wasn't the college player Fitzgerald was and he's coming out of that offense...just to many question marks to be the 3rd pick.
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:22 PM   #25
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I've wondered about Cinci. All indications are that Ocho-Cinco and Housh will both be gone. Cinci may want to get up in front of Seattle to get Crabtree.
I think a trade with Seattle or Cincinnati could happen. I would be in favor of drafting Stafford or Sanchez in that order, but the third spot might be too high for Sanchez from a value standpoint.

If we could trade with the Bengals or the Seahawks, that might allow us to trade down another 5-7 spots and still not worry too much about any of the teams in the top 15 grabbing Sanchez.

Anything in the top 10 is a bit of a reach for Sanchez. That doesn't mean that nobody would take him, but I don't see anyone trading up to take him that high.
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:24 PM   #26
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I don't think Crabtree is that great of a prospect....he's not the physical freak of a Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson...

He wasn't the college player Fitzgerald was and he's coming out of that offense...just to many question marks to be the 3rd pick.
That's how I feel as well. Plus, I still am giving Thigpen a chance to succeed, but we also need a QB to give the reciever the ball. Crabtree can't do diddly shit if his QB isn't giving him the ball.
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Old 01-19-2009, 08:02 PM   #27
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Crabtree

I want Crabtree on K.C. with Bowe and Gonzalez and Bradley. If we stayed in the spread with those weapons and Thigpen's ability to run + L.J. and Charles that would be awesome.

Linebacker and Julius Peppers would be nice too. we have the 2nd pick in the 2nd round. we can get a good linebacker with that pick. We need linebackers in a major way. The current crew is making the gun look bad.
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Well given we now have Pioli who had success with Brady & Cassell (6th & 7th rounders), I'm giving up on the idea of us landing Stafford or Sanchez.

I really hope we trade down for more picks.

But if we stay where we're at, I suppose I'd be okay with the best possible OT. We need a RT anyways.

Not sure if there's a DE right now worth that #3 spot. I don't know. I could be wrong.
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Old 01-19-2009, 08:12 PM   #30
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I don't think Crabtree is that great of a prospect....he's not the physical freak of a Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson...

He wasn't the college player Fitzgerald was and he's coming out of that offense...just to many question marks to be the 3rd pick.
mecca, this is just soooo wrong(not saying crabtree will be better in the nfl) but college?
fitz: 161 rec 2677 yards, 34 tds
crab: 231 rec 3127 yards 41 tds
both played 2 years who was better in college?
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