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Old 01-21-2009, 05:10 PM   #1
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Uh no, the OL coach was in reference to the guy bringing up Russ Grimm..

My gripe with Haley is you can be a tough coach and all that but players have to want to play for you, you can't make guys hate you.
It's about playing for the game, isn't it? Screw the coach. What are you bringing to the game, that asks from you, what the play is called? The game is what drives players. If the game itself doesn't drive the player, then his ass needs to ride the pine.

I'm sure Bowe is saying, "I'll have what he's having," regarding Fitzgerald.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:37 PM   #2
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I like the idea of Haley as head coach. The Chiefs have sucked under "player's coaches." Vermeil and especially Herm coddle their shitty rosters. Guys become complacent and know that they aren't at risk of losing their jobs no matter how brutally they suck, because "it's okaaaay."

I think Haley would lay down the law, help Bowe break out, give LJ (who looks like he'll be back) a role that suits him, and improve the way the O-line functions. He's the kind of tough, hard-nosed coach that is representative of the players Pioli wants. He'd be a perfect fit for the new regime.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:40 PM   #3
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I like the idea of Haley as head coach. The Chiefs have sucked under "player's coaches." Vermeil and especially Herm coddle their shitty rosters. Guys become complacent and know that they aren't at risk of losing their jobs no matter how brutally they suck, because "it's okaaaay."

I think Haley would lay down the law, help Bowe break out, give LJ (who looks like he'll be back) a role that suits him, and improve the way the O-line functions. He's the kind of tough, hard-nosed coach that is representative of the players Pioli wants. He'd be a perfect fit for the new regime.
I agree with what you said but there is one thing that is important not to leave out IMO. He has to be able to coach up these young guys. Teaching this young team effectively is going to be the most important job this next regime is going to face. Marty was effective when he came in because he could teach players well. Hopefully Haley can do the same while still holding the players accountable for their actions on and off the field.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:44 PM   #4
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I agree with what you said but there is one thing that is important not to leave out IMO. He has to be able to coach up these young guys. Teaching this young team effectively is going to be the most important job this next regime is going to face. Marty was effective when he came in because he could teach players well. Hopefully Haley can do the same while still holding the players accountable for their actions on and off the field.
I would say going to the Super Bowl qualifies for coaching the players up.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:40 PM   #5
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They are talking about him as possibly being the Chiefs coach on Around the Horn and PTI. Have we not heard something they have?
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:42 PM   #6
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I'll take Haley, Grimm, and Pendergast.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:54 PM   #7
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They are talking about him as possibly being the Chiefs coach on Around the Horn and PTI. Have we not heard something they have?
Nope, They were just playing off of the Collinsworth comments yesterday.

Everything on there is a day late.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:44 PM   #8
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If Haley is indeed the HC prospect who would he look to for his DC? This position is the biggest concern IMO, almost as much as the HC position itself. Our Defense is going to need an incredible turnaround simply for the sake and morale of the players themselves IMO.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:50 PM   #9
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What the hell is going on?

Have people just accepted that Chris Collinsworth has inside info, or have more sources come to the surface saying that we are expected to hire Haley as the head coach?

Sorry if old news, I've been out of the loop all day.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:53 PM   #10
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What the hell is going on?

Have people just accepted that Chris Collinsworth has inside info, or have more sources come to the surface saying that we are expected to hire Haley as the head coach?

Sorry if old news, I've been out of the loop all day.
I haven't, but nothing wrong with speculating about the possiblity and finding out more about a potential HC canidate is there?
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:56 PM   #11
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I haven't, but nothing wrong with speculating about the possiblity and finding out more about a potential HC canidate is there?
Of course not, I wasn't complaining about people talking about it.

But is this article simply in reference to Collinsworth's idle speculation from yesterday about Haley possibly being KC's head coach?

Until more info comes out, or even an anonymous source says something, it seems like much ado about nothing.
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Tom Coughlin is the kind of guy that can only coach in a place for so long...

By the end of his stay in Jacksonville the entire team hated him and basically refused to play for him. Fred Taylor admitted he would milk injuries and sit out extra games because of how much he hated Coughlin.
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Tom Coughlin is the kind of guy that can only coach in a place for so long...

By the end of his stay in Jacksonville the entire team hated him and basically refused to play for him. Fred Taylor admitted he would milk injuries and sit out extra games because of how much he hated Coughlin.
What a fuggtard, why would you admit to something like that. I don't care how much you hate the guy, you're getting paid to do a job.
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:06 PM   #14
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Tom Coughlin is the kind of guy that can only coach in a place for so long...

By the end of his stay in Jacksonville the entire team hated him and basically refused to play for him. Fred Taylor admitted he would milk injuries and sit out extra games because of how much he hated Coughlin.
Then he's one of those prima-donna pricks, I was referring to. I realize people don't like hard-ass bosses, but I don't see Haley that way. I see him as somebody who does his job, but won't back down from some punk ass athlete who gets in his face. The millions of dollars and passion for the game should be enough to motivate these guys.
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:46 PM   #15
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Tom Coughlin is the kind of guy that can only coach in a place for so long...

By the end of his stay in Jacksonville the entire team hated him and basically refused to play for him. Fred Taylor admitted he would milk injuries and sit out extra games because of how much he hated Coughlin.
Yeah, I could tell how much the Giant's players hated him right after that Super Bowl win....
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