Whitlock- It’s OK to question Pioli and the Chiefs

[Mojo Jojo]

Originally Posted by jAZ

In 1989 (like today) it's f'ing stupid to criticze an incomplete picture. No one is saying, it can't happen 2, 5, or 10 years from now though.

There is a difference between question and criticize. I don't think most people want to criticize Pioli at this point, but they may to to question the way he goes about doing things. We question the way Sprint is run...we question elected officials all the time, so why can't fans, ticket holders, media question the way the Chiefs are being run?

To be honest they blew that whole Cassel phone call, and got busted doing it. If Carl had done the same thing people would demand he be fired.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo

There is a difference between question and criticize. I don't think most people want to criticize Pioli at this point, but they may to to question the way he goes about doing things. We question the way Sprint is run...we question elected officials all the time, so why can't fans, ticket holders, media question the way the Chiefs are being run?

To be honest they blew that whole Cassel phone call, and got busted doing it. If Carl had done the same thing people would demand he be fired.

There is a difference, but we are getting a lot of criticism, not questioning around here.

Questioning is "I have no idea what he's doing, but it's not fair to judge yet because he's just getting started and he's got a great record".

Criticism is any form of "Pioli = Carl Peterson" at this point. Whether it's masked as "Cassel = Bono" or "our New Carl Peterson" or "it is the same old song" or whatever.

And criticism at this point is un-fugging-reasonable.

I don't know your intentions,

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by jAZ

There is a difference, but we are getting a lot of criticism, not questioning around here.

Questioning is "I have no idea what he's doing, but it's not fair to judge yet because he's just getting started and he's got a great record".

Criticism is any form of "Pioli = Carl Peterson" at this point. Whether it's masked as "Cassel = Bono" or "our New Carl Peterson" or "it is the same old song" or whatever.

And criticism at this point is un-fugging-reasonable.

I don't know your intentions,

This.

Like I said before, we haven't seen this team even take a snap of offseason practice. No way you can make judgments on the type of team that will be fielded during Pioli's tenure here based on one trade and the re-signing of a couple cheap players from last year.

[Mojo Jojo]

Originally Posted by jAZ

There is a difference, but we are getting a lot of criticism, not questioning around here.

Questioning is "I have no idea what he's doing, but it's not fair to judge yet because he's just getting started and he's got a great record".

Criticism is any form of "Pioli = Carl Peterson" at this point. Whether it's masked as "Cassel = Bono" or "our New Carl Peterson" or "it is the same old song" or whatever.

And criticism at this point is un-fugging-reasonable.

I don't know your intentions,

jAZ...
I really do respect most of your posts. But you must be honest the Cassel "conference call" blew up in Pioli's face. Most posters here expect better because if we don't then it is CP ver.2.0 The media also needs to hold the Chiefs to a higher level than before.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo

There is a difference between question and criticize. I don't think most people want to criticize Pioli at this point, but they may to to question the way he goes about doing things. We question the way Sprint is run...we question elected officials all the time, so why can't fans, ticket holders, media question the way the Chiefs are being run?

To be honest they blew that whole Cassel phone call, and got busted doing it. If Carl had done the same thing people would demand he be fired.

No, they didn't blow the Cassel phone call. They underplayed the Cassel trade. CP would have paraded him around in tights and a cape as the savior of the franchise.

Pioli is smart enough NOT to put that pressure on him.

[wild1]

Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo

Move forward 20 years. A new GM is in place. Kicked the old guy out...brought rings on his fingers and a new coach. Are you too blind to see it is the same old song. What is the quote about those who don't pay attention to history are doomed to repeat it?

I'm sorry, I can't hear you equating Pioli's credibility to Carl's, those super bowl rings are distracting me.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by wild1

I'm sorry, I can't hear you equating Pioli's credibility to Carl's, those super bowl rings are distracting me.

Carl had a couple championships when he came to KC.


USFL titles.

[Mojo Jojo]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Carl had a couple championships when he came to KC.


USFL titles.

Still two more pro titles than you will ever win.

[jAZ]

None of those people are acting as journalists, they are entertainers. Just for the record.

[58-4ever]

I stopped reading half-way through. He wrote this column just to meet his weekly quota...

[MahiMike]

I think it's time to question Whitlock.

[StcChief]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

I think it's time to question Whitlock.

I have been for quite sometime, same with all 24x7 driven news.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by C-Mac

The Iraq War is a worst-case scenario. We trusted our president implicitly, led the cheers when we declared war on Iraq and declined to demand answers to difficult questions. Hundreds of billions of dollars later, and with our economy in collapse, we now blame poor, minority homeowners for the fall of our society.

Wow, JWhite manages to work race into a column. Imagine that? Hes so wrong on so many levels here.

Originally Posted by C-Mac

But football isn’t all that hard to figure out. Find yourself a tough, talented quarterback who is willing to stand in the pocket and deliver the football under pressure, pray that he doesn’t get injured, and you’ll win a lot of games.

The Sixburgh Steelers won four titles with Terry Bradshaw and two with Ben Roethlisberger. They’ve had three different young coaches lead them to those six titles. John Elway took the Broncos to five Super Bowls and won two. Kurt Warner has played in three Super Bowls. Brett Favre played in two. Peyton Manning and Donovan McNabb win a lot of football games. Did I mention Joe Montana, Troy Aikman and Tom Brady?

100% right. I could not agree more. Stick to football JWhit.

Originally Posted by C-Mac

It is fun and fashionable to beat up on the media. In our arrogance, we have refused to adequately police, examine and reshape ourselves. We’re paying a heavy price for our failure. We’re losing credibility.

It’s in your best interest to demand better from us. Don’t be fooled into believing we should go away or act as a propaganda machine for some newly-elected, popular-in-comparison-to-Peterson (or Bush) leader.

Reeks of a guy trying to remain relevant and hold onto a job. Desperation move.

[Messier]

While I don't mind any opportunity to slam Kevin Kietzman and Jack Harry, Whitlock ironically comes off as the whiniest of all. What is this, the third article complaining about not being given any info from the Chiefs?

There is nothing more boring and annoying than articles proclaiming ones own importance.

[Messier]

It's like Whitlock thinks he's doling out some sort of "punishment" by saying, until you talk to me I'm going to question all of your moves. Somehow I don't think Pioli cares.