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Old 03-11-2009, 06:15 PM  
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Jon Stewart vs. Jim Cramer

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Old 03-12-2009, 06:34 PM   #16
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And that's why he doesn't take shots at obama (yet). His audience. And I don't mean the one in the studio. Advertisers don't like it when you lose your target demographic, and networks don't like it when you lose your advertisers.

Down the road, if this president becomes as unpopular as the last, it'll be a nightly roast.
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Old 03-12-2009, 07:57 PM   #17
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And that's why he doesn't take shots at obama (yet). His audience. And I don't mean the one in the studio. Advertisers don't like it when you lose your target demographic, and networks don't like it when you lose your advertisers.

Down the road, if this president becomes as unpopular as the last, it'll be a nightly roast.
He's poked at Obama several times. There's at least one or two WTF's???every week on that show.

He doesn't get vindictive, but he DOES point some questionable, less than flattering "to-do's" out on a pretty regular basis.
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Old 03-12-2009, 09:31 PM   #18
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He did an admirable job. And I think he said it best at the end: You (Cramer) are the face of this and I don't think that's fair.
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Old 03-12-2009, 09:37 PM   #19
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Stewart just clubbed Cramer like a baby seal.

I have always hated Cramer's show because I'm basically a buy-and-holder and find his show to be unwise and silly. Even with my bias, I started to feel sorry for him in there.

The lesson here is: don't... ever... f***... with... Jon Stewart. When he makes fun of you, laugh it off and let it go away. When you publicly get offended by the Daily Show and start slamming him, Stewart's writers will move in for the kill.
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Old 03-12-2009, 09:37 PM   #20
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Old 03-12-2009, 09:44 PM   #21
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Stewart just clubbed Cramer like a baby seal.

I have always hated Cramer's show because I'm basically a buy-and-holder and find his show to be unwise and silly. Even with my bias, I started to feel sorry for him in there.

The lesson here is: don't... ever... f***... with... Jon Stewart. When he makes fun of you, laugh it off and let it go away. When you publicly get offended by the Daily Show and start slamming him, Stewart's writers will move in for the kill.
I thought Cramer at least held his ground slightly. Though, I don't think it was what NBC intended. He ended up more sympathetic to the audience. Perhaps that was the intent, but somehow I doubt it.

I wonder if those promos disappear.


Also, was it me or was the "I was just explaining these things not condoning them" excuse really, really unbelievable.
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:17 PM   #22
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obama got killed on a joke the other day. They cut to him saying how he wouldn't allow a bill to go through with earmarks or pork. John said yes he is going to fight to cut all this out. Then the next clip was obama signing the damn bill
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:19 PM   #23
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Stewart just clubbed Cramer like a baby seal.

I have always hated Cramer's show because I'm basically a buy-and-holder and find his show to be unwise and silly. Even with my bias, I started to feel sorry for him in there.

The lesson here is: don't... ever... f***... with... Jon Stewart. When he makes fun of you, laugh it off and let it go away. When you publicly get offended by the Daily Show and start slamming him, Stewart's writers will move in for the kill.
Cramer isn't against buy and holding, per se. He just says it's not the way to make the most money, and he's right.
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:22 PM   #24
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obama got killed on a joke the other day. They cut to him saying how he wouldn't allow a bill to go through with earmarks or pork. John said yes he is going to fight to cut all this out. Then the next clip was obama signing the damn bill
I'm pretty sure that they handed him his ass on the teleprompter issues as well.

Funny is funny.
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:01 PM   #25
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Cramer isn't against buy and holding, per se. He just says it's not the way to make the most money, and he's right.
Thats correct. The best way to make money in the stock market is to be psychic, or possess an abnormal amount of dumb luck.
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Old 03-13-2009, 12:01 AM   #26
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Thats correct. The best way to make money in the stock market is to be psychic, or possess an abnormal amount of dumb luck.
Again, that's not at all what he's saying. Buying and holding is fine, but you have to constantly research whether or not it's a good idea to hold on to your stocks at all times. People that held on to GM stock all the way down are kicking themselves right now. If you were monitoring your investments, then you would have known that it was a good time to get out instead of holding it all the way to 50 year lows.

I'm not saying that he's 100% right about everything he says, because I think he does have a few things fundamentally wrong. But there is truth in some of the things he says, too. He's not advocating day trading or anything like that.
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Old 03-13-2009, 12:17 AM   #27
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I almost felt sorry for Cramer.

J.S. friggen PWNED him! And this was like history in the making. Cramer sure could use a PR advisor and a handler.

John was honest, forthright and non-accommodating. As it should be in this case.

America has hijacked Free Economy and Capitalism in the name of greed and everyone has to wise up and press the reset button.

Madoff et al can burn at the stake for all I care.
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Old 03-13-2009, 12:45 AM   #29
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Did he do ANOTHER interview? I saw the one where Stewart had the kittens and puppies on green screen behind Cramer.
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All I have seen of this is two and a half minutes into the video in the OP, but did Cramer attack someone else's credibility because they're an entertainer?!?!?!?!

THIS ****ING GUY is making fun of someone else for the kind of programming they produce?
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