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Old 08-06-2009, 07:27 PM  
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My observations from camp

I attended my 3rd training camp in 6 years Aug 3-5. Here's my thoughts:

-- I love me some Cassel. Simply put, the guy gets the ball where it's supposed to be. He seems to have some leadership qualities as well.

-- Haley is coaching his ass off. If we still suck this year, at least it's finally because of talent deficiency, and not because we call 2 TO's on the same play.

-- Mark Bradley is a fuq-up, Webb will be cut in first round. Welcome aboard Toomer!

-- Alex Magee will start. I know the term "motor" gets thrown around a lot, but this angry sumbitch is the walking definition of it.

-- the new scheme on Defense will benefit DJ quite a bit. The guy is simply too talented to disappear for games at a time like he has the last few years. I blame Goonther.

-- Ryan Succup is the tallest kicker I've ever seen. I can already go out on a limb and say he's not the worst kicker we've had here since Morten Andersen filed for social security. He may even be pretty damn good.

-- The main beneficiary of Haley's hire will be Dwayne Bowe. Haley hasn't forgotten where he came from. He's on the WR's asses like fat on Jamarcus Russell.

That's my 2 pennies. This was the best of my 3 visits there. Maybe it's because I actually like this coach/GM/QB. For anyone that's neve rbeen to camp, you gotta go. I'll miss RF, but hopefully moving it closer to home will give KC locals a better opportunity to go. Later.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:23 PM   #16
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:25 PM   #17
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Nice, informative post, thanks.
Do you dare tell us about any negatives you observed? There must have been a couple.

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Old 08-06-2009, 10:08 PM   #18
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:18 PM   #19
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Nice, informative post, thanks.
Do you dare tell us about any negatives you observed? There must have been a couple.

P.S. Love the avatar. Gonna throw on "Iron Swan".
It's pretty obvious the WR position is a glaring negative. Haley flat-out EMBARASSED Webb on Tuesday or Wed. Toomer's signing, and I think it was a good one, is a message to the entire receiving corps. Catch the ball or GTFO. Bowe is improving, and Toomer has some of the surest hands you'll ever see. Rodney Wright has been impressive among the rest. Bradley got blasted for lining up offsides, in addition to drops. Every time I turned around, Haley was chewing his ass. Don't be surprised if Wright makes the team over Darling, he catches everything. Thanx for the kind words, always nice to see someone else appreciates The Sword. "Fire Lances of the Hyperzypherians" off Gods of the Earth is the Sickest thing I've heard in ages. I love both of their CD's. I hope they tour up north.
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Old 08-07-2009, 06:28 AM   #20
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It's pretty obvious the WR position is a glaring negative. Haley flat-out EMBARASSED Webb on Tuesday or Wed. Toomer's signing, and I think it was a good one, is a message to the entire receiving corps. Catch the ball or GTFO. Bowe is improving, and Toomer has some of the surest hands you'll ever see. Rodney Wright has been impressive among the rest. Bradley got blasted for lining up offsides, in addition to drops. Every time I turned around, Haley was chewing his ass. Don't be surprised if Wright makes the team over Darling, he catches everything. Thanx for the kind words, always nice to see someone else appreciates The Sword. "Fire Lances of the Hyperzypherians" off Gods of the Earth is the Sickest thing I've heard in ages. I love both of their CD's. I hope they tour up north.
I've been telling people here some of this since we talked the other day. I can't wait to see your pics...are you posting them here or on Facebook?
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Old 08-07-2009, 06:34 AM   #21
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Old 08-07-2009, 06:43 AM   #22
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I've been telling people here some of this since we talked the other day. I can't wait to see your pics...are you posting them here or on Facebook?
I'll try to put some in the repository here. I'll put the whole collection on Facebook for sure. I got a pic of Mitch (my son, not Holthus) and Cassel after we got off the phone. Good stuff.
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Old 08-07-2009, 06:48 AM   #23
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interesting comment...coaching v. talent has always been a debate depending upon one's acceptance of the coaches philosophy.

If it's more 'play not to lose' philosophy, it will be Haley's fault, to me, regardless of talent level.
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Old 08-07-2009, 07:20 AM   #24
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It's pretty obvious the WR position is a glaring negative. Haley flat-out EMBARASSED Webb on Tuesday or Wed. Toomer's signing, and I think it was a good one, is a message to the entire receiving corps. Catch the ball or GTFO. Bowe is improving, and Toomer has some of the surest hands you'll ever see. Rodney Wright has been impressive among the rest. Bradley got blasted for lining up offsides, in addition to drops. Every time I turned around, Haley was chewing his ass. Don't be surprised if Wright makes the team over Darling, he catches everything. Thanx for the kind words, always nice to see someone else appreciates The Sword. "Fire Lances of the Hyperzypherians" off Gods of the Earth is the Sickest thing I've heard in ages. I love both of their CD's. I hope they tour up north.
Just listened to the sword for the first time because of your avy. Thanks for the ear candy.

Oh. thanks for the camp reports too dude.
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Old 08-07-2009, 07:24 AM   #25
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jlscorpio, a few questions if you don't mind:

1. How did Hali look at OLB? Can he rush the passer from that spot?
2. Did you get a chance to see what should be the 1st string OL together? How are they looking? Has McIntosh improved?
3. Any young backup OL showing signs that they are ready to step up if need be?
4. Cassel - some reports read like he's an INT machine while others say he can make all the throws. Why such a different view of the guy?

Thanks again.
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Old 08-07-2009, 07:30 AM   #26
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It's pretty obvious the WR position is a glaring negative. Haley flat-out EMBARASSED Webb on Tuesday or Wed. Toomer's signing, and I think it was a good one, is a message to the entire receiving corps. Catch the ball or GTFO. Bowe is improving, and Toomer has some of the surest hands you'll ever see. Rodney Wright has been impressive among the rest. Bradley got blasted for lining up offsides, in addition to drops. Every time I turned around, Haley was chewing his ass. Don't be surprised if Wright makes the team over Darling, he catches everything. Thanx for the kind words, always nice to see someone else appreciates The Sword. "Fire Lances of the Hyperzypherians" off Gods of the Earth is the Sickest thing I've heard in ages. I love both of their CD's. I hope they tour up north.

In addition, Tooms is a team leader in the locker room and appointed captain on offense.

Here's an excerpt from the "newspaper of record" The New York Times on Amani Toomer:

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Learning and Teaching Never Seem to End for the Giants' Toomer
By JOE LAPOINTE
Published: November 2, 2008

Toomer, playing a position occasionally filled by outspoken egotists, sometimes comes across as reticent. But he was one of the few Giants who would discuss the recent problems involving Plaxico Burress.

Toomer said last week that Burress -- suspended for a game earlier this season and benched for a quarter last Sunday -- had become a distraction. ''It's not good for the team,'' Toomer said, ''and it's not good for him.''

They play similar roles and share playing time, so the situation could be sensitive. Toomer said he had not confronted Burress. But he felt obligated to answer questions; it is what a captain does.

As is usually the case among athletes, credibility in the locker room is earned primarily by performance on the field. Toomer accrued more on a fourth-and-6 play last Sunday in Pittsburgh with the Giants trailing by 5 points in the fourth quarter.

With a move around a cornerback, he got open deep. With a last-moment dive, he caught Eli Manning's pass for a 30-yard gain while eluding a safety's helmet-first tackle. The reception kept alive a drive that helped lead to a 21-14 victory.
The entire article: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...52C1A96E9C8B63

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Old 08-07-2009, 07:34 AM   #27
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jlscorpio, a few questions if you don't mind:

1. How did Hali look at OLB? Can he rush the passer from that spot?
2. Did you get a chance to see what should be the 1st string OL together? How are they looking? Has McIntosh improved?
3. Any young backup OL showing signs that they are ready to step up if need be?
4. Cassel - some reports read like he's an INT machine while others say he can make all the throws. Why such a different view of the guy?

Thanks again.
1. Hali has trimmed down, and is working hard on learning the new position. I'm cautiously optimistic about his pass-rushing.

2. 1st string OL looked better than I expected. Albert's gonna be great this year and I can see him in the pro bowl by 2012.

3. Colin Brown has potential, IMO.

4. He threw a few picks, but it's the first week of camp. I can only speak from what I saw, and I saw a lot more good throws than bad.
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Old 08-07-2009, 07:58 AM   #28
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Thanks for the updates.

The part about Magee was interesting. After his draft era interviews, I wrote him off as an apathetic bum. The intensity you saw is welcome news.
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