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Old 08-31-2009, 05:15 PM  
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Who is the greatest American villain?
A Charles Manson reference in another thread got me thinking about this. Who is the greatest villain in American history, the one that will draw the most ire from any right-thinking American?

Give me some options and I'll put up a poll. Nominees can come from any category: war, politics, crime, business, finance, celebrity, sports, child care, Benetton models, comic strip artists (Bil Keane, anyone?), or others. Give me your best shot.

The rules:

1. We're talking true villainy here. Villainy where you can't really defend anything the person did at a dinner party without getting winces.

2. We're talking national scale. Remember, the kicker that shall go unnamed is a hero in Indianapolis.

3. Real life only. While many may villainize Elmer Fudd for his relentless and brazen murderous stalking of Bugs Bunny, Mr. Fudd does not actually exist, and therefore any villainous acts committed by Mr. Fudd do not exist, either.

4. The villain must be an American citizen, or if their villainy took place before 1783, a resident of the area that would eventually become the United State AND acting against the United States for villainous reasons rather than sincere loyalty to another country in conflict with nascent American liberty movements or peoples and in the absence of a history of loyalty to American causes.

Once I get 20 reasonable candidates, I'll post the poll.
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:26 PM   #16
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:26 PM   #17
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:27 PM   #18
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:27 PM   #19
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:28 PM   #21
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Wait, do they have to be American, or just a villain to America?
Good question. After deliberation with the selection committee, it has to be an American citizen. Otherwise, we'd just end up with the same ol' Hitler, Pol Pot, french people list.
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Also, does it have to be a person?

Are Swine Flu / West Nile Virus / Poverty / Hunger / Racism acceptable answers?
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:29 PM   #23
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Good question. After deliberation with the selection committee, it has to be an American citizen. Otherwise, we'd just end up with the same ol' Hitler, Pol Pot, french people list.
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Also, does it have to be a person?

Are Swine Flu / West Nile Virus / Poverty / Hunger / Racism acceptable answers?
Well I guess that answers that.
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Geese one little act of treason and the dude gets no credit.
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Good question. After deliberation with the selection committee, it has to be an American citizen. Otherwise, we'd just end up with the same ol' Hitler, Pol Pot, french people list.
So Benedict Arnold is out? No US no US citizen.
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So Benedict Arnold is out? No US no US citizen.

We'll have an exception for people living on the American continent prior to 1783 in areas that would eventually become U.S. territory.
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