Football Whitlock has a great idea - Page 2

orange · 10-08-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

I've already read it and responded in a different thread.

Here's that other discussion for your edification:

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Originally Posted by blaise

As long as you're patting yourself on the back about that, orange. I just wondered if you'd heard that the NFL aplogized to the Chiefs for the incorrect call on Page in the Giants game.

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Originally Posted by orange

I feel fine about it. The NFL didn't apologize - that was GOCHIEFS' interpretation. The actual article says nothing like that. It says the NFL admits it wasn't a helmet-to-helmet hit. I never said it was. I said it was a shoulder-to-chest* hit - just like Teicher reported. It's still illegal. The sole disputable point is whether he hit Smith in the "neck area" - as vague a term as any you'll find. Page's hit left it to the ref's judgement, and he drew the penalty as usual. Teicher's little blurb doesn't address the "neck area" at all, which leads me to believe that like the posters here (yourself included) he still doesn't understand the rule.

Did the NFL change the standings? I didn't see anything about that.

Maybe you could quote or link to the actual letter to the Chiefs and clear this up completely for me.

Or maybe Alex Jones or Paul Joseph Watson will get to bottom of this, since they specialize in conspiracies.

* GOCHIEFS - that's shoulder-to-chest, by the way, not shoulder-to-shoulder - according to Teicher.

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Originally Posted by blaise

I don't have a copy or a link to the letter. Page claimed the NFL sent him a letter of apology. Let's assume they did. You're saying that the NFL apologized because the ref used the incorrect terminology? Give me a break.

And I never said it changes the standings.

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Originally Posted by orange

Where? A twitter or something?

The Teicher article says nothing of the kind.

It talks about a letter the Chiefs received - which happens every week for every team, addressing any issues with the officiating. It says nothing about Page receiving a letter. And it certainly doesn't use the word "apology."

Seriously, if you've seen something else about this, I'd love to see their (NFL's) reasoning.

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Originally Posted by blaise

It doesn't say they apologized. It says they acknowledge a mistake was made. I take that to mean that the call was incorrect. You take it to mean the NFL is clarifying the terminology.

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Originally Posted by orange

You have that correct. I would still love to see the actual letter. If the NFL is now saying they're not going to enforce the new rule, that would be quite a scoop. Someone in KC should call Teicher and alert him to get on this.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-08-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Here's that other discussion for your edification:

You're a complete douchenozzle. Go lick your daddy's taint...

orange · 10-08-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

You're a complete douchenozzle. Go lick your daddy's taint...

I would but he left it all over your Momma's face and I ain't touchin' that.

Steron · 10-08-2009, 12:32 PM

Just add 15 yard penalties to the list of reviewable offenses. Same replay rules apply as they do today. Problem solved.

Just Passin' By · 10-08-2009, 12:38 PM

Mike Wright got the same penalty called on him that Ngata did, and for doing pretty much the same thing, but that doesn't help Whitlock's argument so he leaves it out. What happened was that the rules were enforced by the tightest calling officiating crew in the NFL. That's it, nothing more. None of the calls were wrong, they were just light contact rather than severe. They were no worse than some of the illegal contact calls have been this season, but they're getting more play in the media.

These calls aren't the problem as long as they're made consistently within each game. It's the blown calls (See Mr. Page for an example) that ruin games.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-08-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Steron

Just add 15 yard penalties to the list of reviewable offenses. Same replay rules apply as they do today. Problem solved.

This. But, I don't think you can apply logic to NFL Rules, or its committee.

L.A. Chieffan · 10-08-2009, 12:42 PM

Have the ****ing commercials while the ref is reviewing it. I dont need to see a ****ing zebra looking in a camera for ****ing 2 minutes while the annoucers try to fill in dead air the entire ****ing time. knock those commercials out baby

SDChiefs · 10-08-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

Have the ****ing commercials while the ref is reviewing it. I dont need to see a ****ing zebra looking in a camera for ****ing 2 minutes while the annoucers try to fill in dead air the entire ****ing time. knock those commercials out baby

Hell yes. Rep

CoMoChief · 10-08-2009, 01:10 PM

"As I did when I first addressed this problem at the beginning of the season, I'm not going to play the race card. I'm going to continue to ignore the fact that Donovan McNabb had a rib cracked while laying in the end zone and there was no penalty called, and I'm going to ignore the unpenalized illegal hits leveled against Off-The-Marcus Russell and David Garrard last week."

Refs pamper the big stars. Refs are humans just like you and me. They get caught up in Brady's fame.

Well you just did Whitlock.....you're trying to tell me that McNabb isn't a star in the NFL?!?!

**Saulbadguy** · 10-08-2009, 01:17 PM

It really pisses me off when a ref knows they got the call wrong but calls it anyways.

**notorious** · 10-08-2009, 01:22 PM

I like Colin Cowherd's take on this stuff: If you see it call it, but don't call something that didn't happen.

Give the benefit of the doubt to the players unless it is obvious.

The refs are way to aggressive on calls, IMO.

CHIEFS58 · 10-08-2009, 01:27 PM

Whitlock cant play any card BUT the race card. He sure as hell can play the "knowledge about anything" card.

Hes as useless as Paris Hilton explaining physics.

CHIEFS58 · 10-08-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CHIEFS58

Whitlock cant play any card BUT the race card. He sure as hell can play the "knowledge about anything" card.

Hes as useless as Paris Hilton explaining physics.

Cant play.

my bad.

**notorious** · 10-08-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CHIEFS58

Hes as useless as Paris Hilton explaining physics.

Paris isn't good at explaining physics, she is better at applying physics:

When "it" comes up, she must go down.....

Chiefnj2 · 10-08-2009, 01:32 PM

The Ngata call was okay - hands to the head.

The call against Suggs was a joke. It was incidental contact.

10-08-2009, 12:32 PM	#4
Steron Texting Ms. Dobbs Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Virginia Casino cash: $9408246	Just add 15 yard penalties to the list of reviewable offenses. Same replay rules apply as they do today. Problem solved.
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10-08-2009, 12:38 PM	#5
Just Passin' By In Search of a Life Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $5450524	Mike Wright got the same penalty called on him that Ngata did, and for doing pretty much the same thing, but that doesn't help Whitlock's argument so he leaves it out. What happened was that the rules were enforced by the tightest calling officiating crew in the NFL. That's it, nothing more. None of the calls were wrong, they were just light contact rather than severe. They were no worse than some of the illegal contact calls have been this season, but they're getting more play in the media. These calls aren't the problem as long as they're made consistently within each game. It's the blown calls (See Mr. Page for an example) that ruin games.
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10-08-2009, 12:42 PM	#7
L.A. Chieffan PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: American Gardens Building Casino cash: $2688654	Have the **ing commercials while the ref is reviewing it. I dont need to see a ing zebra looking in a camera for ing 2 minutes while the annoucers try to fill in dead air the entire **ing time. knock those commercials out baby
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10-08-2009, 01:10 PM	#9
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	"As I did when I first addressed this problem at the beginning of the season, I'm not going to play the race card. I'm going to continue to ignore the fact that Donovan McNabb had a rib cracked while laying in the end zone and there was no penalty called, and I'm going to ignore the unpenalized illegal hits leveled against Off-The-Marcus Russell and David Garrard last week." Refs pamper the big stars. Refs are humans just like you and me. They get caught up in Brady's fame. Well you just did Whitlock.....you're trying to tell me that McNabb isn't a star in the NFL?!?!
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10-08-2009, 01:17 PM	#10
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	It really pisses me off when a ref knows they got the call wrong but calls it anyways.
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10-08-2009, 01:22 PM	#11
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $-1004116	I like Colin Cowherd's take on this stuff: If you see it call it, but don't call something that didn't happen. Give the benefit of the doubt to the players unless it is obvious. The refs are way to aggressive on calls, IMO.
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10-08-2009, 01:27 PM	#12
CHIEFS58 Smoke a turd. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Western North Carolina Casino cash: $10004930	Whitlock cant play any card BUT the race card. He sure as hell can play the "knowledge about anything" card. Hes as useless as Paris Hilton explaining physics.
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10-08-2009, 01:32 PM	#15
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	The Ngata call was okay - hands to the head. The call against Suggs was a joke. It was incidental contact. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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