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Old 10-11-2009, 04:27 PM  
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Freaking Broncos

This game is going to make me puke. So far Denver had 3rd and 14 at the 47 and threw a pass tipped by about 3 Patriots before it was caught by Denver for a first down. That drive led to a Denver FG.

Ghost missed a 40 yarder. I wouldn't normally point this out, but he's just the best kicker in the NFL, kicking in freaking Denver, and he already hit one from 53.

And Brady has two overthrows of Moss, one of which would have been a TD (tough pass though) and the other was an easy first down on a third down play (Randy was wide open) that would have put us in FG position.

We'll see what happens, but honestly.
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Old 10-11-2009, 04:42 PM   #16
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Old 10-11-2009, 04:43 PM   #17
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Sometimes its chintzy, but the kicker really is completely helpless and exposed. If they allowed him to get hit, it might become a strategy to nail an opposing punter, especially if he was a good punter within your division.

All in all, it's been a rule since the dawn of time, and I really can't see getting rid of it.
I have no problem with roughing the kicker. That's a legit penalty if there is unnecessary roughness. However, I do think that a waft of air that changes the direction of his tampon string should not be a penalty.
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Brady had all year. No pass rush by Denver without a blitz.
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Old 10-11-2009, 04:44 PM   #19
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ST's may have cost Denver twice... on an ability to take advantage of GREAT field position, those are comeback killing mistakes.
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I have no problem with roughing the kicker. That's a legit penalty if there is unnecessary roughness. However, I do think that a waft of air that changes the direction of his tampon string should not be a penalty.
Presumably you're not talking about this particular penalty, because the guy hit his leg spinning him around.

I agree that it does sometimes get called when it's the faintest of brushes. For good or for bad, though, the rule is clear. No touch.

I'm wondering about all these roughing the passer calls. Brady got a pass off earlier today when he was nearly wrapped up by DJ Williams, and I wonder if Williams didn't ease up on how hard he could have hit him because he was worried about the penalty. That isn't how football should be played.
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Sez you. He was 2008 All Pro player, Pro Bowler, and he has a tremendously strong leg, rarely misses, and has kicked very well in multiple playoff games. I certainly wouldn't take anyone over him.
I would most definitely take Rob Bironas over him.
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I have no problem with roughing the kicker. That's a legit penalty if there is unnecessary roughness. However, I do think that a waft of air that changes the direction of his tampon string should not be a penalty.
That wasn't roughing the kicker.

It was running into the kicker, which is what happens.

5 yard penalty, but since it was 4th and 4 that made it a first down.
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So far... offensively and defensively, I think Denver has answered some of their critics. The offense hasn't put up a lot of points and that stinks, but they've been productive.

Let's see how they close it out...
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Presumably you're not talking about this particular penalty, because the guy hit his leg spinning him around.

I agree that it does sometimes get called when it's the faintest of brushes. For good or for bad, though, the rule is clear. No touch.

I'm wondering about all these roughing the passer calls. Brady got a pass off earlier today when he was nearly wrapped up by DJ Williams, and I wonder if Williams didn't ease up on how hard he could have hit him because he was worried about the penalty. That isn't how football should be played.
He barely ****ing touched the guy. It's not like he took two steps and dropped him helmet into his sternum.

I know it helped your team, and I hate Denver, but that's a ****ing bullshit rule.
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Ok... nice job defense, time for the THIRD punt attempt.
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Third third down stop for Denver. Gotta give their defense credit.

But now we're punting from teh 50 instead of our own ten, so the penalties definitely hurt them.
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He barely ****ing touched the guy. It's not like he took two steps and dropped him helmet into his sternum.

I know it helped your team, and I hate Denver, but that's a ****ing bullshit rule.
Kickers also do a great job of selling at times like that too... and theirs did a fine job.
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Third third down stop for Denver. Gotta give their defense credit.

But now we're punting from teh 50 instead of our own ten, so the penalties definitely hurt them.
99 yards... time for my UPS Broncos to Deliver.
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That wasn't roughing the kicker.

It was running into the kicker, which is what happens.

5 yard penalty, but since it was 4th and 4 that made it a first down.
Right.
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99 yards... time for my UPS Broncos to Deliver.
Well, their one TD drive today was what? 92 yards.
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