The plan

[Ralphy Boy]

Sign Dansby & Ben Watson (shut it)
Draft
1 - 5, Berry, S - Best player on the board at a position of serious need
2 - 36, Jason Pierre-Paul, OLB - He's climbing and a lot of people think he goes in the first, but there are a lot that think he's a top of the 2nd guy too.
2 - 50, Cam Thomas, NT - I don't think he'll last until round 3. 330 lb NT prospects probably won't in this draft.
3 - 69, Arrelious Benn, WR - Had a 1,000 year as a sophmore and got hurt his junior year, for a couple of games, and didn't put up big numbers so he could slide into the top of the third round. He has an ability we need in a WR; to adjust to a poorly thrown ball.
4 - 104, Kyle Calloway, RT - He or Ciron Black could very well be here.
5 - 141, Clay Harbor, TE - CBS has him rated as a 4th rounder, but he played at Missouri State so he could go undrafted. I've said before that I think this kid is the real deal and I wouldn't want to miss out on him.
5 - 147, Eric Olsen, C - Weis loves him and since they wouldn't let him have Clausen...
5 - 152, Freddie Barnes, WR - Hands of gold.
6 - 179, Myron Rolle, SS - Yeah I don't think he'll be available either, but some sites have him falling this far, so if he did, I'd be all over it.

[Mecca]

And you listed 2 guys who won't work out poorly, that's the problem.

Benn is 6'2 and runs a sub 4.4, Pierre Paul is an athletic freak at his size.

[KCrockaholic]

Did anybody else notice that he thinks we pick #3 overall? If thats the case, there would be no discussion about who KC should take. I think about 75 percent of us want Eric Berry.

[Ralphy Boy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

There's a better chance Benn will go in the 1st round than the one of him falling to the 3rd. And the offseason process is going to make Pierre Paul a high riser, I fully expect him to be a top 15 pick at worst.

I realize regarding Benn that you are probably right and it probably depends on his 40 time. How high would you rank him among the WR's? As I said before, Doucet & Boldin both fell a lot further than most would have expected.

My thought is that you have a lot of teams that are running a 3-4 without the personnel and this is a defense heavy in the first and second, which would support Paul going early and heavy on highly rated O-lineman.

On WR's you've got Bryant, Tate, LaFell, Thomas & Williams also getting first round pub, thats six and it won't all happen. I've been surprised by Tate getting mid to late first round publicity. Last year there were 6 taken in the 1st followed by 2 in the 2nd. The 1st round teams that took them were Raiders, 49rs, Eagles, Vikings, Giants & Titans. 2nd round were both picked by the Browns.
I don't know how often teams, actually draft the same position two years in a row, but it probably doesn't happen very often outside of KC.

I don't think any receiver including Bryant is worthy of a top 10 pick, so
then you have, IMO, the teams most likely looking for a WR in the Dolphins, Titans, Bengals & Jets. Outside of them, I don't see any team taking one in the first.

In the 2nd round, out of the teams that would have been picking too high to take one in the 1st, I think you have us, Cleveland, Buffalo, Jax & Carolina.

In 2008 there were none in the first and 10 in the 2nd.

[Ralphy Boy]

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Did anybody else notice that he thinks we pick #3 overall? If thats the case, there would be no discussion about who KC should take. I think about 75 percent of us want Eric Berry.

I already addressed that.

I'll fix it for you.

[Mecca]

Thomas and Lafell are 2nd rounders, Tate probably is too because he's short and I don't think he'll time elite.

Benn is big and will almost assuredly put up a sub 4.4, Williams is all polish so I figure those 2 along with Bryant are the top 3.

[Ralphy Boy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

And you listed 2 guys who won't work out poorly, that's the problem.

Benn is 6'2 and runs a sub 4.4, Pierre Paul is an athletic freak at his size.

I don't know about sub 4.4.

Doesn't have the top-end speed to separate from NFL starting corners but makes room using his strength.

also questioning his toughness

Played tentatively throughout 2009. Seemed unwilling to block (was he told not to?) this year, and that is a red flag, as is the injury issue itself. Not as explosive even when 100% as some of the other top wideouts in this draft. Not overly shifty or athletic. Looked willing to go down to avoid contact in '09 after being much more of a YAC threat in the past. All of his stats suffered this past season, even his KR average.

Weaknesses: Low TD production, breakaway speed. Arrelious Benn seems to be reviving the lost art of a possession receiver, once a coveted and necessary role within an offense. The taller, stronger, fearless route runners such as Muhsin Muhammad, Keyshawn Johnson and Ed McCaffery are being replaced by smaller, quicker slot receivers such as Wes Welker, Brandon Stokley and Devery Henderson. The closest thing to a poession receiver these days is receiving tight ends. There are several solid possession type receives in this year’s draft class, with Benn leading the way

Decent speed, and even though he played a lot of slot for the Illini can probably be an outside threat at the next level.

He also only had 490 yards receiving & 2 TD's. Even his best season was only 3 TD's.

[Blick]

I don't think Benn is sub 4.4 either. I also don't think JPP is top 15 material. He's an athletic freak for sure, but I think his lack of production keeps him out of the top 15, and I could see him dropping to the 2nd round. Like the guy said, Michael Johnson dropped to the 3rd round and he's pretty similar to JPP imo.

[Mecca]

He played with Juice Williams.

[Wilson8]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Thomas and Lafell are 2nd rounders,

Maybe not now...

Demaryius Thomas breaks his foot

Posted by Mike Florio on February 17, 2010 8:50 PM ET

Late last month, Silva pointed out that the draftniks have been waking up to Georgia Tech receiver Demaryus Thomas. (Actually, Russ Lande of Sporting News was one of the first draft experts to push Thomas up the board.)

But now Thomas could slide, due to a broken foot suffered Wednesday while working out, according to Tony Pauline of SI.com.

Per Pauline, the injury happened while Thomas was practicing the three-cone drill, one of the various events of the Underwear Olympics.

Agent Todd France told Pauline that it's a clean break, and that Thomas is expected to recover in four to six weeks.

"There are no long-term effects from the injury and Demaryius will be
100 percent by the time OTA's begin," France said. The agent also added that surgery is possible, if it "hastens the healing process."

Thomas averaged nearly 20 yards per catch during his three-year career at Georgia Tech.

[Mecca]

I still think he's a 2nd rounder, maybe more late 2nd than early 2nd now.

[Wilson8]

Sorry, you were probably talking about Cam.

[Wilson8]

Maybe so. Just saw the news and thought you had been in favor of him in the second. I like what I've seen of Demaryius.

[Wilson8]

I'm really not that high on Cam Thomas. Go watch some North Carolina football and you'll be impressed with their defense, but Cam does not stand out. I think the people that are moving him up to the 2nd round are giving the Senior Bowl performance too much credit.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Oh for the love of God.

Jason Pierre Paul is going to go in the top 15, and Benn might I stress might make it to the Chiefs first 2nd round pick, the 3rd is laughable.

God bless the team that takes Paul in the first round so the Chiefs don't have to even consider this over-hyped, non-producing, poor man's Aaron Maybin in the second.

Seriously. Five sacks. In a dog shit conference. With Selvie playing opposite of him. If the Chiefs picked him in the fifth round, I'd be pissed.

[Wilson8]

Ralphy Boy,

I like what you've done with identifying KC needs, bringing in some key free agents, and then drafting for those needs. I also agree with a lot of the needs that you are addressing.

Some of the players, I'd change, but that's just me.