Chiefs How do you attack the 49'rs if you are calling the plays? - Page 2

**petegz28** · 09-23-2010, 08:25 PM

I think the dink and dunk is not going to work this game. I forget the guy's name but the bad-ass LB SF has is going to be all over Moeki like stink on shit in an alley.

The WR's are going to have to show up and Cassel is going to have to hit them. The problem is I don't think our O-line can contain the pass rush this game. This is arguably the best defense we have faced so far this year.

The sideways crap isn't going to work. 3 step drops are going to have to be on time and crisp cause Cassel is not going to have time to be Cassel in the pocket on Sunday. We are going to have to attack with the ground game running behind Waters and Albert. I would stay away from one of the best LB's in football.

I think this could be a huge game for Charles against an overagressive defense. If we can get him past the first guy I think there will be a lot of holes for him to pick away. Jones and the up the gut game is probably not the choice for this game, BUT if that works, then pound it. If we can run it up the gut against these guys would should really be able to do whatever we want.

Again though, I think Bowe, Chambers and McCluster are going to have to be the ones to win this on offense on Sunday. The PA Pass should be there early as teams know rushing is our strength and the 9'rs are very aggressive in the pass rush.

I hate to say it but I think on Sunday you have to call Cassel's # a lot

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-23-2010, 08:34 PM

I don't think the Chiefs have to score a ton of points this week. I could be wrong, but the defense is playing well. They are at home, and the 9ers have a young offensive line. I think that this could be the defenses best game thus far.

Also, the 9ers coverage units look horrible on special teams. I look for the Chiefs to get consistently good returns and I expect the 9ers to have poor field position most of the game.

So, with that said, I think the Chiefs will play a conservative game plan. I don't think the Chiefs can get Charles loose on the outside on a consistent basis. I would look for some misdirection early to get the 9ers to stay home a little. I would look for a few more screens this week. I would personally work DMC and JC in the backfield at the same time and run reverses and fake reverses. I would also consider a flea flicker.

I think the match up with the WR's versus their secondary can be exploited, and I do expect more shots down field this game. But, by and large, I expect the Chiefs to stick to playing field position and a conservative, safe approach to offense.

craneref · 09-23-2010, 08:35 PM

I would open with three wides and Charles in the Backfield then run a no huddle. Lots of screens and draws. Take a shot or two deep to keep them honest and possibly a big play or penalty then work the soft spots in the middle. Of course if it was this easy I sure as hell wouldn't be sitting at home offering up my advice on the "Planet!"

Deberg_1990 · 09-23-2010, 08:36 PM

Id probably attack through the air, more than run. But ill go ahead and guess Cassel throws 2 Ints at least.

**petegz28** · 09-23-2010, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

I force the ball to Moeaki early on and make them dedicate a better defender on him (likely willis) and then open up the running game and then playaction.

If Willis is covering Moeaki early I am running him on some 20-30 yard outs and having Chambers or Bowe come underneath. We could use Moeaki to take Willis out of the play really. And if Willis goes zone and leaves a Safety on Moeaki then I would get the ball to him.

**petegz28** · 09-23-2010, 08:43 PM

FTR,

Sharpe and Theisman have both picked the Chiefs. Billick went with SF.

Pioli Zombie · 09-23-2010, 08:47 PM

Charles needs to carry the ball 58 times.

**petegz28** · 09-23-2010, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Id probably attack through the air, more than run. But ill go ahead and guess Cassel throws 2 Ints at least.

I agree. SF has held teams to an average 2.7 on the ground. They have not allowed more than 80 yards rushing in either game. Having said that, running the ball is not the strong suit of the Saints.

Seattle looked like shit against Denver and they raped SF. We have to hope SF plays like crap on the road because I think if they play like they did Monday night, we are in trouble.

beer bacon · 09-23-2010, 08:57 PM

It is time to unveil the triple option that will take us to the 'ship: McCluster at QB, Jones at FB, and Charles at HB. Unstoppable.

beer bacon · 09-23-2010, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

I agree. SF has held teams to an average 2.7 on the ground. They have not allowed more than 80 yards rushing in either game. Having said that, running the ball is not the strong suit of the Saints.

Seattle looked like shit against Denver and they raped SF. We have to hope SF plays like crap on the road because I think if they play like they did Monday night, we are in trouble.

If SF turns the ball over four times like they did Monday night we will win.

Pioli Zombie · 09-23-2010, 08:58 PM

Bishop Eddie Long sucks cock

Mr. Laz · 09-23-2010, 09:00 PM

it's going to be difficult because of their linebackers ... gotta try and use the aggressiveness of the LB's against them with mucho misdirection.

Seriously, we have to gameplan full of showing one thing and doing another to force the LB's to hesitate before attacking.

clear out the LB's with Moeaki and run crossing patterns underneath
DMC/Charles in the backfield ... fake screen to one, throw screen to the other
a couple reverses might be in order

Marcellus · 09-23-2010, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

If Willis is covering Moeaki early I am running him on some 20-30 yard outs and having Chambers or Bowe come underneath. We could use Moeaki to take Willis out of the play really. And if Willis goes zone and leaves a Safety on Moeaki then I would get the ball to him.

This is how Bowe caught balls for 1,000 yrds when TG was here.

keg in kc · 09-23-2010, 09:06 PM

They'll do the same thing they did the first two weeks: come out trying to throw it deep. Then after a couple of series rife with QB pressure and incompletions, they'll switch from 3-and-out passing to 3-and-out rushing.

**The Bad Guy** · 09-23-2010, 09:10 PM

I'd attack them with screens, draws, and a shit load of playaction because those safeties suck and the linebackers are insanely aggressive.

Cassel has to really start selling the PA fake. His fakes are so ****ing terrible.

**petegz28** · 09-23-2010, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

it's going to be difficult because of their linebackers ... gotta try and use the aggressiveness of the LB's against them with mucho misdirection.

Seriously, we have to gameplan full of showing one thing and doing another to force the LB's to hesitate before attacking.

clear out the LB's with Moeaki and run crossing patterns underneath
DMC/Charles in the backfield ... fake screen to one, throw screen to the other
a couple reverses might be in order

I'm not a fan of the reverse but one thing I liked that Saunders did a few times every game was have a receiver fake a reverse. It froze the defense. But Cassel has to get rid of the ball, he can't sit around on that or he will be toast.

09-23-2010, 08:25 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1105873	How do you attack the 49'rs if you are calling the plays? I think the dink and dunk is not going to work this game. I forget the guy's name but the bad-ass LB SF has is going to be all over Moeki like stink on shit in an alley. The WR's are going to have to show up and Cassel is going to have to hit them. The problem is I don't think our O-line can contain the pass rush this game. This is arguably the best defense we have faced so far this year. The sideways crap isn't going to work. 3 step drops are going to have to be on time and crisp cause Cassel is not going to have time to be Cassel in the pocket on Sunday. We are going to have to attack with the ground game running behind Waters and Albert. I would stay away from one of the best LB's in football. I think this could be a huge game for Charles against an overagressive defense. If we can get him past the first guy I think there will be a lot of holes for him to pick away. Jones and the up the gut game is probably not the choice for this game, BUT if that works, then pound it. If we can run it up the gut against these guys would should really be able to do whatever we want. Again though, I think Bowe, Chambers and McCluster are going to have to be the ones to win this on offense on Sunday. The PA Pass should be there early as teams know rushing is our strength and the 9'rs are very aggressive in the pass rush. I hate to say it but I think on Sunday you have to call Cassel's # a lot
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09-23-2010, 08:34 PM	#16
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	I don't think the Chiefs have to score a ton of points this week. I could be wrong, but the defense is playing well. They are at home, and the 9ers have a young offensive line. I think that this could be the defenses best game thus far. Also, the 9ers coverage units look horrible on special teams. I look for the Chiefs to get consistently good returns and I expect the 9ers to have poor field position most of the game. So, with that said, I think the Chiefs will play a conservative game plan. I don't think the Chiefs can get Charles loose on the outside on a consistent basis. I would look for some misdirection early to get the 9ers to stay home a little. I would look for a few more screens this week. I would personally work DMC and JC in the backfield at the same time and run reverses and fake reverses. I would also consider a flea flicker. I think the match up with the WR's versus their secondary can be exploited, and I do expect more shots down field this game. But, by and large, I expect the Chiefs to stick to playing field position and a conservative, safe approach to offense. __________________ A bad day at the gym is better than a good day on the Couch.
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09-23-2010, 08:35 PM	#17
craneref He Man bronco hater club Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Land of the Uneasy Calm Casino cash: $10004977	I would open with three wides and Charles in the Backfield then run a no huddle. Lots of screens and draws. Take a shot or two deep to keep them honest and possibly a big play or penalty then work the soft spots in the middle. Of course if it was this easy I sure as hell wouldn't be sitting at home offering up my advice on the "Planet!" __________________ I have two favorite teams, the CHIEFS and whoever play the broncos this week "I'd say the French and broncos were 'scumbags' but that would be a disservice to bags full of scum." - Dennis Miller -
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09-23-2010, 08:36 PM	#18
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $104454	Id probably attack through the air, more than run. But ill go ahead and guess Cassel throws 2 Ints at least.
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09-23-2010, 08:43 PM	#20
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1105873	FTR, Sharpe and Theisman have both picked the Chiefs. Billick went with SF.
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09-23-2010, 08:47 PM	#21
Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Charles needs to carry the ball 58 times.
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09-23-2010, 08:57 PM	#23
beer bacon WHAT Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $10019545	It is time to unveil the triple option that will take us to the 'ship: McCluster at QB, Jones at FB, and Charles at HB. Unstoppable.
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09-23-2010, 08:58 PM	#25
Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Bishop Eddie Long sucks cock
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09-23-2010, 09:00 PM	#26
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	it's going to be difficult because of their linebackers ... gotta try and use the aggressiveness of the LB's against them with mucho misdirection. Seriously, we have to gameplan full of showing one thing and doing another to force the LB's to hesitate before attacking. clear out the LB's with Moeaki and run crossing patterns underneath DMC/Charles in the backfield ... fake screen to one, throw screen to the other a couple reverses might be in order __________________ Last edited by Mr. Laz; 09-23-2010 at 09:07 PM..
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09-23-2010, 09:06 PM	#28
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	They'll do the same thing they did the first two weeks: come out trying to throw it deep. Then after a couple of series rife with QB pressure and incompletions, they'll switch from 3-and-out passing to 3-and-out rushing.
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09-23-2010, 09:10 PM	#29
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	I'd attack them with screens, draws, and a shit load of playaction because those safeties suck and the linebackers are insanely aggressive. Cassel has to really start selling the PA fake. His fakes are so ****ing terrible. __________________
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