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Re: SNR & everybody who claims that the non-Geno talent atop this draft is "garbage."
I recently listed several players that I felt are superior to Geno Smith, all things being equal (including positional value):
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At QB, who was a worse prospect than Geno of the above players? 1. Luck 2-tie. RG3/Stafford 3. Ryan 4-tie. Bradford/Sanchez 5. Newton 6. Gabbert 7. Smith 8. Tannehill 9. Locker At OT, who was a worse prospect than Joeckel, Fisher, or Lane Johnson? The way I would have ordered them as prospects: 1. Long 2. Okung 3. Williams 4-tie. Joeckel/Kalil 5. Fisher 6. Jason Smith 7-tie. Andre Smith/Monroe/Lane Johnson 8. Tyron Smith At passrusher, who was a worse prospect than Werner, Moore, or Jordan? 1. Miller 2. Chris Long 3. Aldon Smith 4-tie. Gholston/Werner 5. Moore 6. Harvey 7. Jordan At DT, who was a worse prospect than Richardson or Hankins? (Star is apparently out of commission as a top 10 pick now.) 1. Suh 2. McCoy 3. Dorsey 4. Dareus 5. Raji 6. Richardson 7-tie. Ellis/Hankins 8. Tyson Jackson 9. Alualu Now on to my broader point here: This is how I would rank them as prospects as of now. Of course you could adjust your rankings all over the place. But the myth that Geno Smith is on par with what we've seen in the past while the other three categories are horrendous nightmares compared to your "usual draft," is just that: a myth. |
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02-24-2013, 05:22 PM | #16 |
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It's not what they're seeing. It's what they're not seeing, namely Andrew Luck.
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In the meantime, though, my point still stands that none of the non-QBs this year are worthy of the #1 overall pick. I might STILL even argue that half of the guys on your list should be left out of the top 5 considerations in a "normal" draft class. The notable exceptions are the OTs, who for many stated reasons that have been discussed the past 3 months on this BB, should NOT be remotely touched by Kansas City. |
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02-24-2013, 05:22 PM | #19 |
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-------If we arent going to Draft Geno 1.1....
Resign Albert. Trade for Foles. Draft DeMarcus Milliner in the 1st.
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But it doesn't matter -- you can disagree with my rankings. I'm not shitting on a Geno pick. I'm just saying the idea that he is the only sensible selection at #1 because all the other players are "garbage" is SNR, overplaying his hand. |
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Now, if you wish to argue with me on that point, we can continue that in this thread or go somewhere else. |
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02-24-2013, 05:24 PM | #22 |
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How the **** would you have Gabbert and Sanchez in front of Geno Smith??????????
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Stafford: absolutely huge body, bigger arm, played in a pro-style system, and was far more consistent than Geno |
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02-24-2013, 05:28 PM | #27 |
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after that performance anything other than Geno at #1 is going to piss me right the **** off...
it literally makes no sense not to draft Geno Smith. This shit franchise has the easiest ****ing decisions in the world to make. Re-sign Bowe, re-sign Albert...draft Smith. We could literally forfeit the rest of our draft if we got Smith and I know this entire board would still be thrilled. |
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02-24-2013, 05:29 PM | #28 |
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Your rankings are awful.
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02-24-2013, 05:31 PM | #29 |
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If Stafford was at the combine right now, he'd be owning Geno. Better size for the position, pro-style success in the toughest conference with the best defenses.
You can not tell me that Geno would stand a ****ing chance against Stafford in the passing drills. Stafford has a ****ing cannon and solid accuracy.
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Any non-QB is complete garbage as the no. 1 overall pick. Is Joeckel going to put the team on his back when the Chiefs are down 23-17 with 0:35 left in the game? How about Werner or Moore? Is Star's defective heart going to march the team down the field? We need a ****ing QB. Anything else is absolute garbage.
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