Alex Smith end of season stats (what if?)

[Mav]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

We talking the new QBR or the old passer rating?

If the new QBR, 80 is pretty damn good. 56% completion percentage is abysmal but 25/10 would be pretty good.

Im not sure it would be possible to have a qbr that high with the espn system with the completion percentage being so low.

Like, anything under 60 percent is considered really bad now days.

To put it in perspective. Brandon Weeden completed 57 percent of his passes last year.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Im not sure it would be possible to have a qbr that high with the espn system with the completion percentage being so low.

That's what I was thinking..

Either way, I don't want to see Alex Smith garnering any kind of handcuffing extension.

[AussieChiefsFan]

If we're purely looking at these stats,

what ThaVirus said ^

[ThaVirus]

Does anyone actually have any faith that we won't extend this guy?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Does anyone actually have any faith that we won't extend this guy?

If he doesn't play well, why would we? It's not like Reid extends guys who don't perform. Hell, he traded McNabb after he had a probowl season.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Does anyone actually have any faith that we won't extend this guy?

I do. Absolutely. If Alex doesn't perform the way that Andy wants, and Bray shows steps forward next season, I could definitely see Bray replacing Alex Smith next season during the year, and Alex being gone after the season.

Now, if Alex Smith comes out and proves to be a top 10 qb, then yeah, he will have earned it.

If I was forced to bet, I would bet HARD on the former, and laugh at anyone taking the latter.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

I do. Absolutely. If Alex doesn't perform the way that Andy wants, and Bray shows steps forward next season, I could definitely see Bray replacing Alex Smith next season during the year, and Alex being gone after the season.

Now, if Alex Smith comes out and proves to be a top 10 qb, then yeah, he will have earned it.

If I was forced to bet, I would bet HARD on the former, and laugh at anyone taking the latter.

So now, you think Smith is not good enough, and your money is on him getting booted? Do I have that right? Am I to understand that you have now flip-flopped already on Smith just for the sake of sucking CP's e-penis?

If so...

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

So now, you think Smith is not good enough, and your money is on him getting booted? Do I have that right? Am I to understand that you have now flip-flopped already on Smith just for the sake of sucking CP's e-penis?

If so...

I like the Alex Smith I saw the past two years.

I like the fact that Alex was very masterful at running the offense, the pre play adjustments, the giving the players a chance to make a play, the ability to be clutch when he needed to be, and not having to be THE GUY.

I have no idea how Andy Reid is going to use Alex Smith. Until I see that, I am skeptical.

Even you have to admit that Alex's strength is not pushing the ball down the field.

Until I see it done consistently, I even as big of a fan of Alex as I am, aint buying it. I will gladly eat crow when I see it. This doesn't mean im sucking anything. I am merely maintaining what I have said since I have been here.

Being realistic, makes me no less of an Alex Smith fan. I just have no problem admitting ive never seen him be asked to carry an offense, and be successful.

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

I like the Alex Smith I saw the past two years.

I like the fact that Alex was very masterful at running the offense, the pre play adjustments, the giving the players a chance to make a play, the ability to be clutch when he needed to be, and not having to be THE GUY.

I have no idea how Andy Reid is going to use Alex Smith. Until I see that, I am skeptical.

Even you have to admit that Alex's strength is not pushing the ball down the field.

Until I see it done consistently, I even as big of a fan of Alex as I am, aint buying it. I will gladly eat crow when I see it. This doesn't mean im sucking anything. I am merely maintaining what I have said since I have been here.

Being realistic, makes me no less of an Alex Smith fan. I just have no problem admitting ive never seen him be asked to carry an offense, and be successful.

I have to disagree with you. Again, Alex can go deep...even with his weakend shoulder. At the end of the day, he just has to do it enough to keep the defenses honest. I still expect him to be a grind it out kind of player.

I guess you'll have to laugh at me because I believe Alex will hit that 3500-4000 range with a traditional QBR that looks something like what he had in 2011. Just to be clear that is 91+.

[AlexSmithDynasty]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

So now, you think Smith is not good enough, and your money is on him getting booted? Do I have that right? Am I to understand that you have now flip-flopped already on Smith just for the sake of sucking CP's e-penis?

If so...

He just really wants acceptance from this board so he's starting to tinge his posts with negativity towards Smith hoping it will make people here like him, but it won't.

[cdcox]

Andy Reid was the first and only choice of Clark Hunt. Therefore, Clark thinks Reid is a great coach, and we should expect great things from from the Chiefs. Great things = multiple Super Bowl titles.

We gave up two 2nd round picks on the basis of "This is the QB that Andy Reid always wanted". So a great coach who is expected to win multiple Super Bowls got the QB of his dreams. We should still be on track for multiple Super Bowls titles.

Does the performance described in the OP put us on a trajectory to win multiple Super Bowls during the Alex Smith era, given the rest of the talent on the team?

I don't think so. That would make this a very bad trade, or a very bad selection of a head coach. Everyone got what they wanted, so we should expect greatness, not mediocrity.

[AdumbGuy]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Andy Reid was the first and only choice of Clark Hunt. Therefore, Clark thinks Reid is a great coach, and we should expect great things from from the Chiefs. Great things = multiple Super Bowl titles.

We gave up two 2nd round picks on the basis of "This is the QB that Andy Reid always wanted". So a great coach who is expected to win multiple Super Bowls got the QB of his dreams. We should still be on track for multiple Super Bowls titles.

Does the performance described in the OP put us on a trajectory to win multiple Super Bowls during the Alex Smith era, given the rest of the talent on the team?

I don't think so. That would make this a very bad trade, or a very bad selection of a head coach. Everyone got what they wanted, so we should expect greatness, not mediocrity.

Well put.

Until I see anything different, I'm going to miserably expect this to be the 2nd iteration of casshole's stay here. Hell, they even handed Smith the job without any possibility of competition in the exact same way.

[007]

Originally Posted by AdumbGuy

Well put.

Until I see anything different, I'm going to miserably expect this to be the 2nd iteration of casshole's stay here. Hell, they even handed Smith the job without any possibility of competition in the exact same way.

But, they didn't immediately extend his contract to $65 million so there is that.

[AdumbGuy]

Originally Posted by Guru

But, they didn't immediately extend his contract to $65 million so there is that.

No, we just gave up an extra potential 2nd round pick, which is of far more value to me since I don't pay the bills.

The worst part is that nobody's expecting us to win a championship this year. So realistically, any joy I might get from any success we have this year will be mitigated by the thought that we're basically just playing for the right to give the 9ers our 2nd round pick next year instead of our 3rd.

[keg in kc]

(Did you mean 66% rather than 56% - 56 would be awful...)

In any case, I probably wouldn't quantify the value of the trade based on just one season. Taken by itself, a 3500 yard/25 TD season would be 'okay'. Better than we're used to, and most likely enough for a fat extension, but basically just middle-of-the-pack in today's NFL.

Thinking longer-term, if that ends up being his average over 4 or 5 years at the helm of what is almost certainly intended be a pass-heavy offense, then I'd be disappointed. I think he needs to be significantly better than that over the long haul, in the 4000 yard/30 TD range at minimum. Less than that, and it probably means he hasn't produced to the level they want, and we've been forced to go ball control to hide his limitations. I hope it doesn't go that route.

But the value of the trade, that's going to be really difficult to ascertain for a few years, unless he either blows the doors off and has a huge year or flames out biblically and gets shitcanned.