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Old 01-20-2014, 04:17 PM   #1
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Also I feel like it might improve the game flow.

Say a team scores a TD that looks iffy and it goes to automatic review. TV timeout, but in the 30-45 seconds the play's upheld and scoring team opts to take the point and kickoff. When action resumes from a TV view's standpoint there's about to be a kickoff whereas currently they might break back in for the score and then take commercial after the XP or 2-point conversion.
Yeah, I agree with that.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:10 PM   #2
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It doesnt sound like such a terrible thing, whats irksome is just Goodells penchant for constantly changing shit, seems like this guy has made more changes than the last two commissioners combined.

I'm reeeally sick of this butthole.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:07 PM   #3
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Hmmm... I want to hate this proposal but I really can't.
It's pretty easy to hate. All Goodell cares about is scoring, and this will force teams to go for two (as in, MOAR POINTZZZZ). He's watering down the league one rule change at a time.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:17 PM   #4
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It's pretty easy to hate. All Goodell cares about is scoring, and this will force teams to go for two (as in, MOAR POINTZZZZ). He's watering down the league one rule change at a time.
Why would it force teams to go for two? You make no sense.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:18 PM   #5
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It's pretty easy to hate. All Goodell cares about is scoring, and this will force teams to go for two (as in, MOAR POINTZZZZ). He's watering down the league one rule change at a time.
Uh, no. A team would have the option of taking a free point, or going for two. It wouldn't force anything.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:18 PM   #6
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The extra point is a worthless play. If they can do it successfully 99.9% of the time, it might not be worth doing.

This is a little confusing: "It's automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball, so if you fail, you go back to six."

So a TD is worth 7. Then you can go for an extra point via run or pass, but if you fail, you lose a point? That seems too weird.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:23 PM   #7
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The extra point is a worthless play. If they can do it successfully 99.9% of the time, it might not be worth doing.

This is a little confusing: "It's automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball, so if you fail, you go back to six."

So a TD is worth 7. Then you can go for an extra point via run or pass, but if you fail, you lose a point? That seems too weird.
Yeah, the sentence structure is weird in that quoted bit. What they mean is that when you score a TD you get 6 points. After that you can accept a free 1 point (for 7) and go kick off, or decide to run a 2 point play under current rules (for 8). If your play fails, you are left with the points you scored for a TD (6) and you go kick off.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:32 PM   #8
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Yeah, the sentence structure is weird in that quoted bit. What they mean is that when you score a TD you get 6 points. After that you can accept a free 1 point (for 7) and go kick off, or decide to run a 2 point play under current rules (for 8). If your play fails, you are left with the points you scored for a TD (6) and you go kick off.
OK. But really the end result is still pretty much taking points off the board. You've got the free point in your pocket. But fail on your extra-extra point, you lose the free point you had.

But, I suppose the current kicking of the EP is about the same as a free point when they make it 99.9% of the time. Going for two is about like taking a free one off the board. Hmmm...

So it's about the same deal but "seems" different.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:19 PM   #9
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It's pretty easy to hate. All Goodell cares about is scoring, and this will force teams to go for two (as in, MOAR POINTZZZZ). He's watering down the league one rule change at a time.
Not that I care about Goodell, but he's not in charge. He doesn't change shit unless the owners want him to change it.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:48 PM   #10
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It's pretty easy to hate. All Goodell cares about is scoring, and this will force teams to go for two (as in, MOAR POINTZZZZ). He's watering down the league one rule change at a time.
How will it force teams to go for two? You get seven automatically. But if you go for two and fail, you get six. Same as now, only you just don't have to kick the extra point if you are ok with 7.
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Hmmm... I want to hate this proposal but I really can't.

The downside is removing the tactic of lining up in the kick formation and running a fake but it's not like coaches opt for that option anyway.
So much for the "integrity of the game."
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Extra points are an opportunity for an extra commercial break for the NFL. I doubt they abolish them. That said, they should. What a waste of time.
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The NFL could do what rugby does and force the kicker to attempt the XP from where on the field the TD was scored. That would make it more difficult.

Example: Charles hits the outside, and just sneaks inside the pylon for the TD. Succop then has to kick from that sideline.
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The NFL could do what rugby does and force the kicker to attempt the XP from where on the field the TD was scored. That would make it more difficult.

Example: Charles hits the outside, and just sneaks inside the pylon for the TD. Succop then has to kick from that sideline.
This actually sounds excellent, but make a maximum distance so that the 35 yard line or something like that is the maximum distance for a kick. But this also punishes teams for scoring long touchdowns so I don't know. Sounds exciting though.

Another option would be to bring in a random fan for the extra point. That would be cool but would never happen. Funny to think though a big 250 lb. woman coming in for the PAT. Haha
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