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Old 02-09-2014, 09:25 PM  
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DAMN YOU COLLEGE BASKETBALL FANS!!! YOU PIECES OF CRAP!!!

Blame overzealous fans, not players, for college basketball’s woes

by Yael T. Abouhalkah

College basketball fans are out of control, and not just at Texas Tech.

These out-of-control fans are staining a game played by 18-22 year olds, “student-athletes” who don’t get paid directly (but often get scholarships) to attend school.

The fans are overzealous at the University of Kansas in Lawrence, the University of Missouri in Columbia, Kansas State University in Manhattan and basically most other NCAA schools that take basketball oh-so-seriously.

The Marcus Smart-Jeff Orr confrontation Saturday night has received national attention, and for good reason.

Smart, an Oklahoma State student, was wrong to go into the stands and shove Orr, a fan, near the conclusion of the Cowboys’ game with Texas Tech. His three-game suspension, handed out Sunday, is appropriate.

But Orr — a proclaimed “super fan” of the Red Raiders — was also wrong for, in his own words, calling Smart a “piece of crap” right before the incident.

Orr represents much of what’s wrong with college basketball these days: Yelling negative comments at Texas Tech’s opponents, spending thousands of dollars to attend games around the country, and seeming to take great delight in the attention he gets by simply sitting in the stands, contributing too little that’s positive to the game itself.

Orr said Sunday that he wouldn’t attend any more Texas Tech games this year. (That makes me want Texas Tech to make it to the Final Four this year, just to punish Orr even more.)

The Smart/Orr incident is hardly the only example of how fans have gone way overboard in investing in college basketball these days. (The same argument could be made, and even stronger, in football, but that’s a whole other discussion.)

Just look at KU, my alma mater, which is led by $5-million-a-year coach Bill Self.

That salary is obscene, but it is, of course, just one of many multimillion-salaries for coaches of “student-athletes” in the college game. Who supports paying this kind of money to Self? The fans who want KU to be a national powerhouse, the fans who put pressure on KU’s athletic directors to overpay for this kind of position.

And the bad fans come in all ages.

Over at MU, basketball fans known as the Antlers have been tossed out of games this year for being disrespectful to other teams.

Finally, watch Twitter feeds, blogs and other social media these days to see how over-invested fans get in the outcome of a college basketball game.

These “fans” are hyper-critical of the smallest things, acting as if they are playing themselves, taking all of this oh-so-seriously.

They appear to be almost unhinged, as if something really important in their lives were riding on the outcome of a college basketball game.

This is how we get to sad incident like the one that happened Saturday night in Lubbock, Texas.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/02/09...#storylink=cpy
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:27 AM   #16
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Old 02-10-2014, 04:29 AM   #17
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On Orr specifically... I'll wait to hear the full story on this. As of right now, no real smoking gun. But John Lucas, a more credible source, implies that he's said some pretty bad shit. So even if he's innocent (again... we'll see), he may have done enough over his lifetime as a superfan that he deserves negative attention.

The line is drawn regardless of race or gender. I said in another thread, in sports, you have a lot of leeway. I think any reasonable human being should know where those lines are.

On the race issue... Desmond Moses said the N-word gets used regularly in Lubbock, and he didn't hear that everywhere. So again... I'm interested to hear how this plays out as the truth unfolds.
Well so far as I've heard or read, "piece of crap" seems to be the only "slur" (obviously non-racial) attributed to Orr. Hardly seems worthy of "getting drilled". But like you, I'll reserve judgement until I hear or read more detail on the matter.
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Old 02-10-2014, 04:46 AM   #18
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No one has posted " ban college basketball!" Yet? This thread disappoints.
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Old 02-10-2014, 04:48 AM   #19
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No one has posted " ban college basketball!" Yet? This thread disappoints.
Sorry, bro. Here you go...


BAN ALL SPORTS!
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What a crappy article. It's like a post from this place, and not even one that anyone would consider any good.
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Old 02-10-2014, 07:27 AM   #22
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Nice piece of journalism.
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I’m a KU fan that has been to a few games in Columbia. Other than the Antlers I would say the MU Fans are pretty Tame. To be fair I never saw them play their hated rival but against teams like OK State and Alabama the rowdiest I saw was the old guys telling the young kid up front to sit down so they didn’t have to stand to watch the game.
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